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Old 04-22-2016, 09:24 AM   #1
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Toad braking

Which is a better braking system stay in play duo or unified tow brake
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Old 04-22-2016, 09:59 AM   #2
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I have heard good thing of the UTB, but fwiw, I would go with SMI.

No electronic boards to fail with SMI.
The UTB looks twice as hard to install as the stay in play.
The customer service at SMI is as good as it gets, imo

I bet you'll be satisfied either way

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No electronics in the SMI? Isn't there something in the intertial sensor that goes by the drivers feet?


That said I just put a stay-in-play in our 2004 Element toad and it's a slick install, took about 4 hours, but I paid a lot of attention to clean routing and hiding things trying to make it as clean as possible, I also routed the braking LED to the coach dashboard and added a 12v charge line from the coach to the toad.
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Does anybody prefer airforce one to stay in play duo for a coach with air brakes. I already have stay in play on my Toad
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Well, thats true. The inertia switch is electronic.
It is pretty solid IMHO.

The problem with a Duo on a DP is that if you use the exhaust brake to control speed down a steep decline, the brakes may activate. Going down that decline will allow the inertia switch to be activated when normally set and the exhaust brakes MAY apply the brake lights. that is both signals needed to activate the system.
When you have a Duo on a DP, It is important to know if your exhaust brake illuminates your brake lights. If it does, you'll need to raise the setting on the inertia switch to compensate while going down a steep hill
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Does anybody prefer airforce one to stay in play duo for a coach with air brakes. I already have stay in play on my Toad
I use a Brake Buddy as I have two toads and it is easy to use it on both. If I were to go to a single toad I'd definitely go with the SMI Air Force One. It would run on my air brakes, and hook up is a snap.
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Does anybody prefer airforce one to stay in play duo for a coach with air brakes. I already have stay in play on my Toad
My toad was originally set up with the stay in play from previous coach. Went to a DP with air brakes and still use the Duo. No problem!

If I were installing new and I had air brakes, I'd probably opt for the AF1 because it is a better system for air braked coaches, although the Duo works perfectly well.
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