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Old 03-22-2017, 06:58 PM   #1
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Toad braking systems that don't come on when the tail lights come on.

I am looking at a brake system for my toad. I have read a lot about systems that use inertia for a trigger or systems that use brake lights for a trigger. However, I don't want my brakes to be on when my Jake brake is activated. I assume the Jake brake on my coach activates the inertia trigger and I know that the Jake brake activates the brake lights. But the Jake brake is an assist and not the main brake system.

I don't want to have the brakes on the toad to come on under these circumstances.

It seems like a complete waste money and brake pads on the toad to have the brakes applied when the Jake brake is on.

I would like to have a system that only applies the brakes when I push the pedal. Roadmaster has a system and I would like to know if there are any others. Any advice?

And yes, I know a Jake brake is not necessarily the technical term for the brakes on the MH.
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Old 03-22-2017, 07:01 PM   #2
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Have you looked at the SMI Air Force One? I don't believe it is based off either of those...I believe it works off the coaches air system for "truly" proportional braking....
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Old 03-22-2017, 07:55 PM   #3
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Yep, AF1. I had it on a 2008 Bus and on the current 2013 Bus. An outstanding system. We've got 140,000 miles on the system. I just move it from Bus to Bus.
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Since the OP does have a diesel, another great option is the M & G braking system. That system leave or utilizes NOTHING INSIDE the cab of the toad. The actuator for it is in between the master cylinder and the power brake unit. Therefore, no activation of the toads brakes when the Jake is activated. And, that also means no activation of the toads BRAKE LIGHTS TOO. That really comes in handy if the toad's tail lights are used as tow lights.
It's really nice to have nothing on the inside of the toad.
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Another option is the RVI3 braking system. It uses inertia for proportional braking and does not activate with the brake light. You control the sensitivity and the amount of braking for the size of your toad. I have used the RVI2 for over two years with excellent results. It is very quick and easy to set up taking less than a minute each time, is very light weight and does not push against the seal like some portable units.
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I am looking at a brake system for my toad. I have read a lot about systems that use inertia for a trigger or systems that use brake lights for a trigger. However, I don't want my brakes to be on when my Jake brake is activated. I assume the Jake brake on my coach activates the inertia trigger and I know that the Jake brake activates the brake lights. But the Jake brake is an assist and not the main brake system.

I don't want to have the brakes on the toad to come on under these circumstances.

It seems like a complete waste money and brake pads on the toad to have the brakes applied when the Jake brake is on.

I would like to have a system that only applies the brakes when I push the pedal. Roadmaster has a system and I would like to know if there are any others. Any advice?

And yes, I know a Jake brake is not necessarily the technical term for the brakes on the MH.
I've had mine Roadmaster Brakemaster system on my Journey for 14 years and 206,000 miles without any problems. Does not activate with exhaust brake activation.

Hope this helps with your decision.
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I have a US Gear system on my Grand Cherokee and it does not activate when the engine brake comes on.
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I have my SMI Stay-in play Duo adjusted so it does not
engage with the engine brake, but does activate with
"harder" braking.
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SMI Air Force One, works great for us.
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SMI Air Force One works as you are requesting.
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Another for the SMI Air Force One. I've been using the SMI system for over 10 years, two coaches and five different vehicles.

The M&G would be my second choice, but it won't fit on some vehicles because there isn't enough room to add it onto the brake cylinder on many vehicles. If you change vehicles, you can return the old unit and trade it in, IF your new vehicle will accept one.
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I have been satisfied with the inertia based Brake Buddy. I've used the same system on my previous gas and my current DP coach with no problems.
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I've had an invisibrake. Works great for 6 years now.
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