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Old 10-05-2015, 06:47 PM   #15
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To answer your original question, yes, you can be cited for not having a supplemental brake system if the vehicle/trailer your towing requires.
Local, county, or state officer can cite you.
If the officer/trooper knows what to look for, as in no brake away cable, or wireing, he/she can pull you over and check your equipment.
If your involved in an accident, after everything as far a persons involved settles down, a knowledgable cop will check your rig out, and it will be noted whether or not you had required equipment, and if it is in working condition.
How do I know??? I'm a retired sheriff from a large Fla county, and specialized in traffic enforcement and accident investigation.
I can tell you that if your found negligent, your insurance co will probably not cover your damages, or will try to avoid payment to you. You will be in civil court as a result of your "uncareing attitude...you knew it was required, you were breaking the law, yet you chose to not have your vehicle properly equipped".
Heck, even a lawyer who advertises in a comic book could win that one.
Wow, 30,000 miles, without a problem!!! But there's always mile 30,001 to worry about.
Bite the bullet, spend a grand and get a proper set up. Lot cheaper than hiring a lawyer.

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Old 10-05-2015, 07:18 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by wa8yxm View Post
(But require them on trailers) but if you read the definition of a trailer... A car in tow fits and I mean like a glove.
Not really.

RCW 46.04.130
Combination of vehicles.

"Combination of vehicles" means every combination of motor vehicle and motor vehicle, motor vehicle and trailer or motor vehicle and semitrailer.


"Trailer" includes every vehicle without motive power designed for being drawn by or used in conjunction with a motor vehicle constructed so that no appreciable part of its weight rests upon or is carried by such motor vehicle, but does not include a municipal transit vehicle, or any portion thereof.

RCW 46.04.320
Motor vehicle.

"Motor vehicle" means every vehicle that is self-propelled and every vehicle that is propelled by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires, but not operated upon rails. "Motor vehicle" includes a neighborhood electric vehicle as defined in RCW 46.04.357. "Motor vehicle" includes a medium-speed electric vehicle as defined in RCW 46.04.295. An electric personal assistive mobility device is not considered a motor vehicle. A power wheelchair is not considered a motor vehicle. A golf cart is not considered a motor vehicle, except for the purposes of chapter 46.61 RCW.

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Old 10-05-2015, 07:23 PM   #17
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Well in spite of the obvious "better braking " ability discussed on this forum ,will somebody in Government respond to the Fact that there are NO performance or Manufacturing standards for ANY of the various Makes And Models of the Equipment being offered for sale! This applies to Tow Bars as well as Braking Systems!

Without official guidelines there is absolutely No possible way to back up some of the claims stated about Legal ramifications and Insurance Company Denials!

I have contacted Every Level of government concerning this subject ,and the response ,when they had the courtesy to reply has been less than informative.

Basically ,nobody is interested in getting involved!

So if there are No Performance Or Manufacturing Standards how can there be any legal requirements or obligations?

Stop trying to frighten people with misleading statements when You have nothing to support these claims.

As to Insurance Claims if You are concerned call Your Insurance Company and get their official response.

I'm quite comfortable in the knowledge that My Vehicles can stop safely, yes I use a home built breaking device and I have properly installed Safety Cables securing the Towed Car to the Motorhome. I hope that Yours can stop as well and that Your Safety Cables or Chains are securely attached to both Vehicles.
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Old 10-05-2015, 07:28 PM   #18
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I towed for years without brakes. A few years ago my Blue Ox tow bar snapped in half. I am convinced it was from the toad constantly pushing against the tow bar without brakes for those number of years. I replaced the Blue Ox with a Ready Brute, tow bar and brakes all in one.

Thankfully I was pulling away from a fuel pump when it snapped and not doing 65 MPH when it broke. It scares me to think my pickup could have gone flying into on coming traffic, who could I have killed? That ended my years of stupidity. Photo of broken tow bar Tow Bar Life Expectancy
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Because of a shorter stopping distance with aux brakes, there is a girl on a bicycle that is not dead, and I am not in jail.
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