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12-23-2015, 01:04 PM
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Toad towing/Base plate
Has anyone ever used just the base plate adapter instead of buying the entire base plate. I was thinking that one could be made much cheaper using the adapter only. It will be going on a 2001 Dodge Dakota 4x4. Thanks for any ideas and input.
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12-23-2015, 02:15 PM
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Problem is when you make your own you shift the liability onto yourself. If what you made every broke and you killed someone . . . Nuff Said.
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12-23-2015, 02:19 PM
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Thanks Ranger. I was going to have a local Machine Shop weld it on, if others like you thought it would work.
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12-23-2015, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Ranger Smith
Problem is when you make your own you shift the liability onto yourself. If what you made every broke and you killed someone . . . Nuff Said.
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In most cases you don't have to make your own. Most mfgs sell adapters. I would think it would be just fine to use them.
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12-23-2015, 03:15 PM
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Would this help.
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12-25-2015, 08:53 AM
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Are you talking about the Roadmaster face bar when you say "adapter"? Not all tow bars use them and the tow bar connects directly to a fitting on the base plate.
Whether welding some adapter on is any easier or cheaper than using the custom-designed base plate will surely vary by vehicle make/model and the type of tow bar used. It wouldn't be for my Blue Ox Aventa LX.
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12-25-2015, 04:38 PM
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
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12-25-2015, 04:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary RVRoamer
Are you talking about the Roadmaster face bar when you say "adapter"? Not all tow bars use them and the tow bar connects directly to a fitting on the base plate.
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I too am not sure what you mean by "adapter". Are you referring to the small adapters used to connect...say a Roadmaster tow bar to a vehicle equipped with a Blue Ox base plate?
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12-26-2015, 08:38 AM
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RON, Sorry but I don't have a picture of the adapter, but it is the piece that my Blue OX tow bar hooks to on the towed vehicle. A large pin connects them both.
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12-26-2015, 10:13 AM
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Roadmaster tow bars have a "cross bar" which is actually a horizontal stiffener. The "V" shape tow bar connects to the cross bar, and the cross bar is what actually ties onto the base plates. The cross bar is actually a component of the tow bar. I suppose it could be welded direct to a front bumper of vehicles that have a fair ly broad steel bumper. Few modern sedans or SUVs do, but some Jeeps and trucks have it.
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12-26-2015, 03:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lonny
RON, Sorry but I don't have a picture of the adapter, but it is the piece that my Blue OX tow bar hooks to on the towed vehicle. A large pin connects them both.
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Is the base plate a Blue Ox also? I'm not a Blue Ox expert, but all toads I've seen with Blue Ox base plate and tow bar, the tow bar connects directly to the base plate that sticks out in front of the toad.
Now if the toad has....say a Roadmaster base plate, an adapter is needed to connect a Blue OX tow bar to it. These are small units that convert the "connection" from one to the other. I recently had to do this with my friend's toad that we set up with a ReadyBrute tow bar and Blue Ox base plates.
Sorry, but I just don't understand what you are getting at. Pictures would be nice, or a web site that sells these "adapters" you are referring to.
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12-27-2015, 09:32 AM
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Ron
Thanks for the reply. Type in Blue Ox adapter and you will see what I am talking about. Sorry but I don't know how to put a picture of it here.
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12-27-2015, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lonny
Ron
Thanks for the reply. Type in Blue Ox adapter and you will see what I am talking about. Sorry but I don't know how to put a picture of it here.
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You mean the round pin looking thing? That has a split on one end for the towbar to attach to? Blue Ox makes those removable so that the baseplate is hidden when not in use. They're not really adapters, they're just a removable part of the baseplate.
The hard part of the engineering of the baseplate is the structural loads, especially side to side. Very few vehicles have the required structural strength in the front end without adding a real baseplate. The only ones I know of are some Wranglers with after-market bumpers. Those you can add brackets directly to the tow points on the bumper.
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12-28-2015, 08:22 AM
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Type in Blue Ox adapter and you will see what I am talking about.
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The point is that there are many "adapters" that might be used with a Blue base plate or Bue Ox tow bar and we have no idea which one you are talking about. There are adapter to use a Blue Ox tow bar on a Roadmaster base plate, adapters to use Roadmaster or Demco tow bars with Blue Ox base plates, and adapters for different sizes or older modles as well.
This page lists a dozen or so of them, and there are more from Roadmaster and Demco:
Blue Ox Tow Bar Adapters
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