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Old 01-09-2009, 01:49 PM   #1
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We have a '06 Monaco Camelot, with separate turn and brake lights, and pull a '05 Honda Pilot. I've installed auxiliary light bulbs (Blue Ox Bulb & Socket Taillight Wiring Kit)in the Honda taillight assemblies. We also use an SMI Stay-in-Play for toad braking. The wiring and SMI brake worked flawlessly with our previous mh which, I think, had combined taillight and turn signals.

When I use a test light on the 7 pin tow plug connector on the Camelot, I get the following: 1 pin for tail lights, 1 pin for LT & brake, 1 pin for RT & brake, plus 4 other pins (12v battery, auxiliary, brake controller, and ground). The cable to the toad checks out the same way. However, when I check the lights on the toad, I get the following: select LT, both bulbs flash; select RT, no bulbs flash; brakes, both bulbs on; headlight, no bulbs on.

I'm at a loss. Is this one of those situations when one of those "converter boxes" is needed on the mh? Any ideas would be appreciated!

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Old 01-09-2009, 04:48 PM   #2
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When it comes to toad light problems, always check that you have a good ground on the toad. It is usually the root to all funky lighting problems.

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Old 01-10-2009, 04:37 PM   #3
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Yes it sounds like you may need a converter box to get the lights to work. I have used a converter box and once you get in installed everything will work just fine. Good Luck.
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Old 01-26-2009, 05:50 AM   #4
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Check with stay and play. We had problems with our 02 holiday Rambler. It seems Monaco uses the ground wire to activate the brake. We had to get a special relay to make the brake work with our US Gear brake system
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Old 01-27-2009, 01:19 PM   #5
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It sounds like you already have a converter box installed because your turn and brake lights are combined at the trailer connector. I would check the grounds on both vehicles and check that the trailer connector is wired correctly.
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Just curious as to whether you got it solved or not? I have the same setup on 06 Endeavor and my toad. Just rewired it it use a 6 wire cable with the the 7 pin plug connector instead of the 4 pin to 4 pin I had been using. It all works fine, though it also did before with the 4 pin. Got to admit I like the looks of that big old coiled blue cable better than the flat four wire.
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Old 01-29-2009, 07:38 AM   #7
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You might find some useful info at http://www.marksrv.com/wiring.htm. It can't hurt to find out if you arrangement is standard or some special Monaco configuration.

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I can't remember the specific name for what you need but it is described on Blue Ox website. Ineed one too as soon as I find a base plate for my toad. It combines the 4 bulbs on your coach to 2 bulbs on your toad.

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