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Old 02-06-2014, 09:53 AM   #15
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[QUOTE=Hikerdogs;1915711]The OP was asking about the angle of the towbar, not the strength.

The OP is using the strength of the tow bar to justify having it at that angle, at least as I read it. I thought it worth mentioning that the strength will be greatly diminished because of the angle.

One of the reasons I suspect the manufacturer recommends only so much angle, it opens the tow bar up to failure because it is designed to withstand level forces and was rated 10,000 as if it were towed level or within prescribed limits.

I'm discussing angle, not strength.
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:14 AM   #16
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Just wanted to ask if the angle that I am towing my road at is ok. Used to tow an avalanche but switched to a Explorer a while back and noticed that there is a little bit of an downward angle.

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That angle is to severe and will cause premature wear on the bar and front end of the toad. It's your bar and toad so do what you think is right from all the folks that has spoken here.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:28 AM   #17
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Thanks to all. I have purchased a 4" drop and will pick it up early next week. Next trip is not until feb 14th weekend so will have it in plenty of time.

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Thanks for the update. Wise choice IMO.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:43 AM   #19
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Take a look at this previous thread. The Motorhome should not be more than 4" above the attachment point of the toad......

Tow Bar Angle and Height Difference
I think 4" is a BlueOx thing . . . RoadMaster says 3" either way. Maybe one inch wouldn't make any difference, though.

Here's what Roadmaster says (three inch variation):

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Towing with a motorhome-mounted tow bar which has an upward or downward slope puts undue strain on the entire towing system. For that reason, do not tow if the tow bar is not within the ‘Safe Zone’ — no more than three inches above or below level.
Towing a vehicle with a tow bar that is not within the Safe Zone will result in significant wear and tear on the tow bar and brackets, significant wear and tear on the vehicle’s suspension and frame, and the eventual failure of the towing system.
To determine if the tow bar is within the Safe Zone — first, connect the motorhome and vehicle on level ground.
Next, measure the distance from the center of the motorhome receiver down to the ground. Then, measure the distance from the center of one of the base pins down to the ground.
Compare these two measurements. To be within the Safe Zone, they cannot be more than three inches apart if the base pin is above or below the motorhome hitch receiver.
If the tow bar is not within the Safe Zone, you must purchase a hitch accessory to raise or lower the hitch receiver. ROADMASTER has three accessories available — Hi-Low Hitches, Hi-Low Drops and Dual Hitch Receivers — which will raise or lower the hitch receiver from two to 10 inches, depending on the model.
Towing with the tow bar more than three inches above or below level will void the ROADMASTER warranty.
Failure to follow these instructions may cause property damage, personal injury or even death.
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Thank you for letting us know your decision. Good choice as well.
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I had rise my tow bar 10" level... Actually like it this way, as I barely have to bend over to connect it.
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Old 02-06-2014, 02:48 PM   #23
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The information you have provided is for the obsolete Roadmaster Sterling tow bar. Notice the bar has the name Sterling on the side of it. The Sterling was replaced by the Sterling All Terrain in 2005. The owners manual for the new tow bar recommends + or - 3 inches.

The current models: Blackhawk 2 All Terrain, Sterling All Terrain, Falcon All Terrain, Falcon 2, and the Stowmaster All Terrain recommend the safety zone as + or - 3" from level. For the Stowmaster and the Tracker The tow bar must be approximately level with the ball hitch on the motorhome.
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Just so folks aren't confused about what RoadMaster says today if you buy a new Sterling All-Terrain tow bar (they discontinued making the Sterling), you can get the Owner's Manuals and the Installation Instructions in .pdf form from their website here:

Roadmaster Inc. - Tow Bars, Braking Systems & RV Accessories

They also include the documentation for several discontinued models, including the Sterling (preceded the Sterling All-Terrain). If you look at all four documents for the Sterling/Sterling All-Terrain, you'll see their specifications for staying within the safe zone for tow bar angle is not to exceed 3" above or below.

Not sure what it may have been in the past, but that's what they specify now.
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Tow Bar or Tow Dolly, always strive to get as close to level as you can. Drop or raised ball hitches are a miniscule $$ amount to your overall investment.
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We tow a Chevy Colorado 4x4 and I installed a 6 inch hitch adapter to raise my MH hitch to the height of the toad baseplate connection point. Works great but did move my connection point farther away from the MH
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Blue Ox allows four inches on the Aladdin. Looks like you are more than that but I think you have a Sterling from the looks. You made need a drop hitch, if so use the least drop you can in order to get it right.
I thought it was 3 but it might be 4 down or 3 up.

One thing to remember, if you put a drop adapter on there it will torque the hitch, this puts a lot of stress on the brackets where the cross bar attaches to the frame rails. This can cause them to fail and drop the entire hitch INCLUDING the loop you hooked the break away cable to off the RV.

If you need to ask how I know this... Well.. The hard way.

Thankfully other safety systems worked as advertised, a welding shop re-built the brackets (About 4x the original strength) and the new wheel for my bicycle (Carried on the same hitch) was 80 bucks.
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Some manufacturers are 3" +/-, some are 4"+/-, but there are enough adapters out there even if you are only a few inches off to get it close to level. Mine was 2 1/2", bought a 2" adapter and now I am only a 1/2" off. I figured the closer to level the better, and the adapters are not that much.
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