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Old 02-05-2014, 04:37 PM   #1
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Tow Angle

Just wanted to ask if the angle that I am towing my road at is ok. Used to tow an avalanche but switched to a Explorer a while back and noticed that there is a little bit of an downward angle.

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Old 02-05-2014, 04:39 PM   #2
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You should check the manual on your tow bar. When I changed toads, I had to go to a drop hitch to get them to align better. I think my limit was 4" from level.

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You should check the manual on your tow bar. When I changed toads, I had to go to a drop hitch to get them to align better. I think my limit was 4" from level. Rick
X2. That angle looks severe.
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Blue Ox allows four inches on the Aladdin. Looks like you are more than that but I think you have a Sterling from the looks. You made need a drop hitch, if so use the least drop you can in order to get it right.
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Blue Ox allows four inches on the Aladdin. Looks like you are more than that but I think you have a Sterling from the looks. You made need a drop hitch, if so use the least drop you can in order to get it right.
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Here's what Roadmaster says (three inch variation):

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Towing with a motorhome-mounted tow bar which has an upward or downward slope puts undue strain on the entire towing system. For that reason, do not tow if the tow bar is not within the ‘Safe Zone’ — no more than three inches above or below level.
Towing a vehicle with a tow bar that is not within the Safe Zone will result in significant wear and tear on the tow bar and brackets, significant wear and tear on the vehicle’s suspension and frame, and the eventual failure of the towing system.
To determine if the tow bar is within the Safe Zone — first, connect the motorhome and vehicle on level ground.
Next, measure the distance from the center of the motorhome receiver down to the ground. Then, measure the distance from the center of one of the base pins down to the ground.
Compare these two measurements. To be within the Safe Zone, they cannot be more than three inches apart if the base pin is above or below the motorhome hitch receiver.
If the tow bar is not within the Safe Zone, you must purchase a hitch accessory to raise or lower the hitch receiver. ROADMASTER has three accessories available — Hi-Low Hitches, Hi-Low Drops and Dual Hitch Receivers — which will raise or lower the hitch receiver from two to 10 inches, depending on the model.
Towing with the tow bar more than three inches above or below level will void the ROADMASTER warranty.
Failure to follow these instructions may cause property damage, personal injury or even death.
END QUOTE.
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in addition to the angle, your tow bar appears to be pretty weak. can't tell the brand of your towbar, but your toad is heavy, you might want to make sure it's strong. just 2 cents.
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It appears you need a 4" drop for your hitch. Doing that will make towing easier and will keep you from damaging the front suspension on your vehicle. Best to check your documents on the tow bar.
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Go online to the MFG of your Tow Bar and see what they advise and recommend. An article from road master recommends says the suggested safe towing zone is No more than 3 inches above level and No more than 4 inches below level. From your Pix it looks like you need at least a 4 inch drop adapter. Having you TOW bar heights outside of the Safe zone puts added stress on the bars. In an emergency STOP the rear of your MH is going to raise and there is a good chance the Car (TOAD) will try to run under your MH. And the added stress on the towing equipment will cause a failure of one or more of the components. Safe travels... ed
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Towbar is Roadmaster 10,000 lbs. so should be fine. It is what I used pulling my last two avalanches. Barely know the explorer is behind me.
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Take a look at this previous thread. The Motorhome should not be more than 4" above the attachment point of the toad......

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Towbar is Roadmaster 10,000 lbs. so should be fine. It is what I used pulling my last two avalanches. Barely know the explorer is behind me.
Why ask the question then? Virtually every response is to the contrary. Makes me curious about your reasons. You can optimize your tow bar strength for about fifty bucks and a half hours time. It will then preform as designed.

One thing that can negate a 10,000 tow rating is a bad angle, the worse the angle the less the rating, substantially less every degree.

Don't get me wrong people violate recommendations and get away with it all the time,and you are free to disagree no matter how sound the advice you originally sought may be. I'm just a bit curious as to why?

Don't need an answer really. Choose wisely and travel safely I wish you well.
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My system requires the car be less then 4" lower then the MH. I had to use an 8" drop to get there. I probably would have been OK with a 6" drop. I bet a 4" drop would be perfect for the tow vehicle in the OP. You would need to do the measurement to be sure.

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Why ask the question then? Virtually every response is to the contrary. Makes me curious about your reasons. You can optimize your tow bar strength for about fifty bucks and a half hours time. It will then preform as designed.

One thing that can negate a 10,000 tow rating is a bad angle, the worse the angle the less the rating, substantially less every degree.

Don't get me wrong people violate recommendations and get away with it all the time,and you are free to disagree no matter how sound the advice you originally sought may be. I'm just a bit curious as to why?

Don't need an answer really. Choose wisely and travel safely I wish you well.
The OP was asking about the angle of the towbar, not the strength.

As mentioned earlier Roadmaster recommends no more than a 3" drop or rise. On a level surface measure the distance from the center of the receiver to the ground on the motorhome, and from the center of the attachment point on the towed vehicle to the ground. The difference between the numbers is the size drop receiver you need to make a level connection.
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