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Old 12-14-2013, 10:02 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by windsolar View Post
I am towing a VW TDI automatic and need to get a Tow Dolly as I can't do 4 down with the VW (might be wrong on that). I am looking at the Demco Kar Kaddy 3 as the weight is in limits for my 2006 winnebago View (3500 pounds). I am confused on the specs on the Demco web site:

Total towed vehicle weight - 4,700 lbs.
GVWR (unit weight plus max. carrying capacity) - 3,500 lbs.

Isn't the GVWR the dolly plus car weight? If I can tow a 4700 pound car with a KK 3 that weighs 520 pounds would that not mean the GVWR is 5220 pounds and not 3500?
I just looked at the KarKaddy3's web listing and agree, it's confusing.
... I see it says the total towed vehicle weight is 4,700lb...that's the total linear max weight that can be pulled on the hitch (total of car's weight and the dolly).
The 3,500lb is max weight that the axle can carry (GVWR or the dolly and front of the car).
From here:
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At 520lb it's heavier than my EZ-Tow (405lb empty / GVWR 5390lb)
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But still has disc surge brakes and the extra weight is in the steering axle. Still a very nice dolly

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Old 12-15-2013, 05:19 AM   #44
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I read the 3500 lbs as the weight on the dolly. I would think that's about 60% of the total weight of the vehicle being towed, 5000 lbs. would be the total weight of the vehicle. I went the dolly route because my cars can't be towed all 4 down, I can use the dolly for multiple vehicles and this model tracks like 4-down with the steerable wheels and it has a handle for easy handling with on 50 lbs tongue weight.

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Go the the Remco web site and see if they make a lube pump four your car. All may not be lost. Many cars not approved for 4 down stock can be towed 4 down with the addition of a lube pump.
Worth a try.
By the time you get the car equipped for 4 wheel towing and add the lube pump it is way more expensive than a tow dolly.

Using a tow dolly really isn't that hard people.
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The dolly stores easy. I cannot see why you cannot keep it with your motorhome. I don't keep my motorhome at home so it is at a storage facility and it just sits behind it. Most of it will go under the coach for a smaller foot print(less than 6'). At the camp grounds it is also a non issue. My coach being 36' long, I have never had an issue for room with a dolly and car. Granted a tow bar is less room, however the cost is much, much greater for a 4 down set up. But to each their own and we all have options that work well for each.
A 4 down towing setup doesn't have to be any more expensive than a dolly. We originally purchased a Roadmaster dolly to tow our Buick. After about 5 years of towing it to campgrounds and parking it while we rented a Jeep (for off roading) we decided to buy a Wrangler 4x4.

I was originally going to tow it using the dolly. However after reading the manual I found it could only be towed 4 down or on a trailer. The cost of the Roadmaster Sterling tow bar, base plates, and braking system were actually a couple hundred dollars less than the cost of the dolly.

Personally I have no trouble using either setup. Sometimes the vehicle you tow dictates the type of towing gear you use.
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I really messed up including missing the boat. I PRESUMED and did not read the manual that my 2001 Ford Escape 4x4 was towable because it is not in full FWD. It has a electronic switch that changes if from 2 to 4WD. But the manual says NO CAN DO> Now my options are put the 2008 Prius on a dolly, which brings up the question of lights and brakes OR go find a stick shift something or other or something with a transfer case. Since my wife is now not talking ( and I thought the 25* weather outside was cold today ) I am not sure what is the best way to go. Thanks The Lonely Toad
Any chance you could trade the old Escape on a newer Escape Hybrid? I understand with the hybrid, it uses
a different transmission, and they ARE flat towable.
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The OP bought a dolly 3 days ago folks! :-)
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The OP bought a dolly 3 days ago folks! :-)
True, but this thread may still be valuable to others considering their towing options.

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