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View Poll Results: SURGE or ELECTRIC brakes for a tow dolly?
I prefer Surge Brakes 13 54.17%
I prefer Electric Brakes 7 29.17%
It doesn't matter, they're both good 4 16.67%
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Old 01-30-2015, 12:52 PM   #1
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Tow Dolly SURGE or ELECTRIC brakes???

I know I want brakes on the dolly, but don't know whether one type is better than the other. Comments??
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I chose a dolly with surge brakes (Kar Kaddy SS) because I didn't want to run wires and install the controller. I could have used the the controller from my previous TV but just didn't want to mess with it.

We have towed the car about 10,000 miles in two years and have no complaints.
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I went with the surge brake on the Acme EZ tow dolly for the same reason. No additional wires or controller. Just plug, hitch up and go.
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Old 01-30-2015, 02:09 PM   #4
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Does using a Jake brake have any affect on either braking system?

I was curious whether it would cause a surge brake to activate too often, and was curious whether an electric system would need to be adjusted during descent....or am I overthinking this?

Good points about not having to install a controller. If I find one with electric, what's involved with installing a controller? $100 worth of parts and wire?
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Does using a Jake brake have any affect on either braking system?

I was curious whether it would cause a surge brake to activate too often...
The surge brake is going to attempt to not push against the ball on the hitch. So, if the coach Jake brake is applied the dolly brake will apply just enough action to keep from pushing on the coach. When going down a hill, same thing, the toad is not going to push or pull on the coach. In other words, it is like driving without a tow when decelerating or going down hills.
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The surge brake is going to attempt to not push against the ball on the hitch. So, if the coach Jake brake is applied the dolly brake will apply just enough action to keep from pushing on the coach. When going down a hill, same thing, the toad is not going to push or pull on the coach. In other words, it is like driving without a tow when decelerating or going down hills.
I guess that would give a nod to having surge brakes? What I understand from your post is that surge brakes touch and go as you descend, but electric brakes don't activate unless you press your coach's brake pedal, right?
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For those that prefer electric, what reasons do you have for your preference?
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I went electric as I wanted to easily install an electric breakaway system.No sure how that works with surge- but liked the surge brakes I had on my old boat trailer.Is there a way to install any type of breakaway system on surge? Not that familiar with them and curious.
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We have electric brake dolly. it was less expensive than surge, and dealer only had the electric. I bought the external brake contoller from American tow dolly out of Colorado, works great. one thing, since controller is mounted on dolly, anybody that uses the dolly will have brakes ( as opposed to a controller inside your coach)

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We have electric brake dolly. it was less expensive than surge, and dealer only had the electric. I bought the external brake contoller from American tow dolly out of Colorado, works great. one thing, since controller is mounted on dolly, anybody that uses the dolly will have brakes ( as opposed to a controller inside your coach)

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Ditto- got the same set up and love it. Added a breakaway switch myself.
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The Acme EZE Tow has a break-away safety feature as well:


Emergency Break Away
Hydraulic surge “disc” brake car tow dollies are equipped with an emergency break away locking feature wherein the dolly brakes fully lockup if the dolly separates from the ball for any reason.


I'm not endorsing it over electric braking systems, just putting it out there so the OP has all the info to help make the decision.
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The surge brakes on my Acme work great, hook the break away cable to the tow vehicle and forget it.
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Does using a Jake brake have any affect on either braking system?

I was curious whether it would cause a surge brake to activate too often, and was curious whether an electric system would need to be adjusted during descent....or am I overthinking this?

Good points about not having to install a controller. If I find one with electric, what's involved with installing a controller? $100 worth of parts and wire?
using your jake will activate electric brakes as the jake activates lights, as far as applying coach brakes and the surge brakes activating, that is exactly what they are supposed to do isn't it

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??? really? Brake lights activate when the Jake is applied? I must drive people behind me nuts when using the Jake in town. Is this really true?
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