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04-21-2018, 11:44 AM
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Towbar Angle
I may be opening a can of worms here but what the heck.
Is this acceptable towbar angle to tow my 2017 F250 with Excalibar 2 on back of Discovery with Cat 330???
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04-21-2018, 12:01 PM
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Looks like your tow pins are at 24 1/4"
and your receiver is at 21".
"They" recommend +/- 2".
I'll step aside and let others chime in.
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04-21-2018, 12:07 PM
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That will work.
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04-21-2018, 12:08 PM
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I'm not familiar with the towbar you are using. Its different than others I have seen. What does the manufacturer of that towbar specify? Seems like I have always read +/- 3". I know that is what Blue Ox specifies with my towbar. The closer to level you can get, the better off you are.
jt
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04-21-2018, 12:09 PM
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looks good to me. Almost parallel to the ground.
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04-21-2018, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by harleyjt
I'm not familiar with the towbar you are using. Its different than others I have seen. What does the manufacturer of that towbar specify? Seems like I have always read +/- 3". I know that is what Blue Ox specifies with my towbar. The closer to level you can get, the better off you are.
jt
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From towbar manual 3”+/-
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04-21-2018, 01:45 PM
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Well,
Based on the limited view of the actual angle of the tow bar, while hooked to both units, what I'm seeing is just fine. You may have a couple of degrees more than the "allotted" amount but, again, based on what I can see of the angle, it looks good enough. Our Jeep is running about 3" high of the attachment point on our coach. Been like that ever since I set it up and, that's with a 4" riser from the receiver of the coach. Good enough for me.
Scott
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04-21-2018, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jddangelo
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From that then, you're a bit out of spec. It might work ok, but it might lead to some undesirable effects especially in a panic braking situation. I've seen some people towing with a lot more difference than that however and it seems like they are ok with it.
jt
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04-21-2018, 03:37 PM
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Here's a whole discussion on the topic if you're interested.
http://www.irv2.com/forums/f85/tow-b...nce-16631.html
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04-21-2018, 08:35 PM
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That's the weirdest tow bar I've ever seen. Looking at the receiver end, it's angled up. Can this tow bar be reversed and installed in the RV receiver upside down. If so, you would be level.
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04-21-2018, 09:01 PM
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Don has hit the nail on the head and exactly what I was going to recommend. If you unbolt and remove the bars, you can flip the receiver over and it will drop the hitch end about 3". I have that same Excalibar II bar and it is designed to work either way. I had to do the same thing with mine so it would be close to level. Also, when you do that, loosen the front side bolts and adjust the angle of the head so the bar bolts are perpendicular to the bar arms. The closer to level you can get it the better.
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04-21-2018, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lt Dan
Don has hit the nail on the head and exactly what I was going to recommend. If you unbolt and remove the bars, you can flip the receiver over and it will drop the hitch end about 3". I have that same Excalibar II bar and it is designed to work either way. I had to do the same thing with mine so it would be close to level. Also, when you do that, loosen the front side bolts and adjust the angle of the head so the bar bolts are perpendicular to the bar arms. The closer to level you can get it the better.
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Isn't the receiver/hitch end already 3" lower than the truck connection? Why would he want to lower it 3"more by reversing the hitch connection?
I read the height of the truck at 24" and the hitch at 21". The hitch has to come up, not down.
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04-21-2018, 11:37 PM
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Be sure the coach is aired up at travel height when setting up the tow equipment.
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04-22-2018, 05:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ljwt330
Isn't the receiver/hitch end already 3" lower than the truck connection? Why would he want to lower it 3"more by reversing the hitch connection?
I read the height of the truck at 24" and the hitch at 21". The hitch has to come up, not down.
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Correct I reversed the bar to raise hitch point at motorhome b/c truck connections are higher than hitch.
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