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Old 07-24-2015, 09:01 AM   #1
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Question Towing capacity

my question is the hitch capacity on my 02 Winnebago JourneyDL w/330 cat 6 sp.allison on a XC chassis. I would love to use my 20' tilt trailer(3000)lbs to carry my Toyota Tundra pickup (5000)lbs. depending on whose book you read it can or cannot be done. Any answers or experiences out there. Thanks
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There should be a label on the hitch. Mine says 5K. This information is also in my manual. You can get your operators hand book from Winnie for your rig, it should also have the capacities in it.
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Old 07-25-2015, 01:58 PM   #3
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Here's everything concerning what you can tow...

Your towing capacity is normally the lowest of:

- GCWR minus weight of MH when ready to travel (loaded).

- Hitch capacity.

- MH tow capacity.

- Chassis tow capacity...some times the last two are different.
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Cat320 is right. Check you MH manual and find out what you can tow SAFELY. You will see a lot of people towing pickups, big cars, trailers, etc., and their hitch says they can do it. However, their MH manual says they cannot.

Just because you have a 5,000 or 10,000 lb label on your hitch, on a motorhome doesn't mean you can tow 5,000 or 10,000 lbs. Someone may have switched hitches without consulting the MH manual.
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Old 07-27-2015, 08:09 PM   #5
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Our '02 Dutch Star had a 6,000# hitch and was rated for that amount. However a call to Spartan got me info that said I cold change the hitch to a 10,000# unit with no trouble. The 6,000#'s was enough for what we did so I never did it.


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The motorhome manufacturer is the only one that can legally change a tow rating because of Federal laws relating to it.
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A belated ; Welcome to iRV2. First post I see.

If you don't have the info you need in an owners manual, there should be a " Weight Sticker " in the RV that gives the details of GVWR and GCWR and Tow Rating. The sticker looks like the picture below , and can be in a cupboard or closet .
My 99, XC , chassis has a tow weight rating of 5,000 lbs.
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One would think this should be easy, but it's not. My motorhome has a GVWR of 35k pounds and GCWR of 45k pounds. One would think it would be capable of towing 10k pounds, right? But when I checked the sticker on the hitch, it was 5k pound tow rating and 500 pound tongue weight. I went round and round with the coach manufacturer and chassis manufacturer (Newmar and Freightliner). I mean, what is the point of advertising a GCWR 10k pounds higher than GVWR if the rig is not set up to tow 10k. I suppose I could go out and have a 10k hitch installed, but when the rig is advertised for 10k towing and comes with a hitch, it should be a 10k hitch. Well, after going back and forth a bit, Freightliner sent me a new sticker. This one says 5k tow rating (500 tongue weight) WITHOUT a load distributing hitch, and 10k tow rating (1,000 tongue weight) WITH load distributing hitch. Now, I can kind of understand a load distributing hitch increasing the tongue weight capability, but how in the world does a load distributing hitch increase the towing capability??? I don't get it. So I have gone out and visually inspected a variety of hitches on pickup trucks and on motorhomes. My hitch appears to me to be just has sternly built and attached to the chassis as all the 10k/1000 pound hitches I have inspected. In fact, it is built better (thicker metal and larger bolts to frame) than some of them. So, bottom line, I am going to ignore the sticker. I have loaded the hitch receiver with a Versahaul motorcycle carrier plus my Vstrom 650. Total "tongue weight" type load on receiver is just over 600#. It is hell for stout with no flex whatsoever. I plan on purchasing a F150 and loading my Goldwing in the back when I want to have both a vehicle and motorcycle with me. That will result in my towing about 7,000 pounds. I am not going to use a load distributing hitch when flat towing the truck won't result in any tongue weight to distribute. That would be senseless. After going through all this, my guess is that since I have a "short" diesel pusher (34 footer), Freightliner does not want me adding 1,000 tongue weight that could result in taking too much weight off the front end and cause handling issues. In other words, I am guessing their tongue weight rating isn't due to receiver hitch strength, it is due to short wheelbase of the coach.
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They put their ratings on the MH towing capacity based on the hitch but also on the tranny and motor. I wouldn't want to be going down a step hill and have an overloaded transmission. Might get messy.
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Also remember that if you get into an accident and they determine that your hitch was overloaded and it was responsible, you insurance company can deny coverage.
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All good answers. With your help I have determined I have a 5000 lb hitch even though they say I have the motor and tranny to support a 10,000 lb hitch. For safety reasons I may need to back away from my plan. Thanks to everyone
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Is the Tundra not towable 4 down ? 2WD?
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To the best of my knowledge it's not towable according to the owners manual. It is a 2 wheel drive. That possibility might be worth exploring I already have a tow bar
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