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Old 06-04-2016, 09:52 AM   #1
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Towing full size pick-up

Looking for some input from people towing full size pick ups as a toad. It's time to retire the Dakota as it is rusting away before my eyes and I'm looking to tow another pick up. The Dakota weighed 4700lbs with me in it so I figure with the 22.5 inch spare tire in the back of it I was towing about that 4700lbs. I'm looking at Chevy/GMC full size extended cab short bed trucks the advertised curb weight of the trucks is about 5300lbs is anyone out there towing one of these trucks? Is that weight close to a real world on the road vehicle. Is 700-800lbs more even gonna be noticeable I get 7.5 mpg whether I'm towing or not and I've never seen an engine temp above 192 no matter how hot it is outside same thing with trans temp never been over 175 no matter what. I don't want to screw any of that up by towing something to big so I'm looking for input from you guys who are doing it. Are there any issues I should be considering. The coach is rated to tow 10k but I don't want to push it.
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Old 06-04-2016, 03:06 PM   #2
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I had a Ford F-150 4x4 that was flat towable. The actual weight (according to a Cat Scale) was 6,500 lbs.

As long as the pickup you are looking at has some sort of "Neutral Tow Mode", you should be fine. There was an acquaintance of mine used to flat tow a Ram 1500 4x4. As long as the tow bar is rated to handle the weight of the truck, you should be ok.
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Old 06-04-2016, 06:07 PM   #3
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Rocky we tow a 2013 F150 at about 6000 lb I do notice about a .2 tenth fuel difference betwene the Kia and truck but it is a easy set up espically with the the M&G toad brake system. I use a Roadmaster brackets ( easy install) and a Blue Ox Aventa LX 10,000 tow bar.
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We have tow a PT on a dolly at around 4000 lb for years now and just started towing our 2011 Ram 1500 Quad 4x4 The info says the Ram is about 5300lbs. With stuff and bed cover it is closer to 5800 most likely.

I can't tell the difference between the 2 behind our Journey.

I never really minded the tow dolly for the lot 9 years with the PT, but the 4 down towing is very easy.
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What are you towing the F150 with?
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It's in my signature a 2000 Monaco Dynasty Cummins ISC 350 HP, I can't tell the difference in towing the two except the fuel usage.
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No problem towing 2013 crew cab Silverado with 2005 Fleetwood discovery. Cat c7 330 hp
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Our 2011 Sierra crew scales at 5500. We've towed it over 50K with Blue OX set up. This spring the frame extension (base plate attaches) broke. The body shop said the bolts loosened. They are now welded on. So if you tow a GM BE AWARE.
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Our 2011 Sierra crew scales at 5500. We've towed it over 50K with Blue OX set up. This spring the frame extension (base plate attaches) broke. The body shop said the bolts loosened. They are now welded on. So if you tow a GM BE AWARE.
Ed I suspect that thread lock was not used when installed I always use it as per instructions and torque to specs that said I have heard of a few Blue Ox brackets failing and that is why they added the two cables that attach to the frame a few yrs ago.
I have always used Roadmaster brackets because I think they are a little more robust built but like the way the Blue Ox tow bars are built.
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Thanks everybody that was the info I was looking for my rig is an 07 Cat C7 with 300hp and an Allison 3000 trans so looks like seeing everybody else can do it with no problems I'm going to move forward with my truck shopping. Thanks cousin Ed that info about weight is just what I needed I have a blue ox alpha tow bar rated at 6500lbs so as long as I'm under 6k when I'm loaded to go I think I will stick with it if I'm over 6k I'll move up to a 10k bar. Thanks everyone for all the great info.
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It's in my signature a 2000 Monaco Dynasty Cummins ISC 350 HP, I can't tell the difference in towing the two except the fuel usage.
I meant the OP.
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rocky34- Please add your vehicle description(s) to your signature. It will help others with their answers and comments.


For us, we have towed our 2012 GMC Sierra shortbed 4x4 extended cab for over 30,000 miles without any problems. We use the 10,000# Roadmaster hitch and baseplate.


Cousin Ed - Thanks for the reminder to check the tightness of the mounting bolts.
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"rocky34".....I'll add my view. I started out towing a 2005 Dakota 4 door and it towed well. Definitely not a sophisticated engine and got terrible mileage, I like new stuff and eventually traded it in on a new Nissan Frontier four door. I added the Remco driveshaft disconnected and towed it for about two years. I'm a big guy and I missed the comfort of a full size truck (had one since I was 16). I bought a 2012 Chevrolet Silverado crew cab. I've towed the Silverado for six years, four behind a 2005 Diplomat with a 400 ISL and the last two behind a 2014 Newmar Dutch Star with a 450 ISL. The Diplomat was a rocket and I could pull any grade out west at 55+ mph with the Silverado in tow. My mileage typically dropped about 1 mpg when towing.

My Dutch Star is 5K heavier, taller and dragging a tag axle. I almost cried going up the first grade at about 49 mph. However, my mpg doesn't change a lot with the Dutch Star, about .2-.3 mpg.

As stated, I've always owned a truck and always will, but I hate owning more cars than necessary. So I have my truck and my wife has her car. We used the Silverado to haul a 50" wide RZR in the bed for two years. We tow a vehicle about 10K - 15K a year. This year we're doing a coast to coast trip and I decided I just didn't want to haul the truck this time. Not so much because of the mpg or power issues, but I just get tired of cleaning it ( I don't allow it to get/stay dirty) and sometimes it's a little big for sightseeing.

So.....I wrote this long story so you would see how I use mine and the affect it has on towing. We've decided to finally break down and buy a second tow vehicle. I bought a 2013 Honda CRV a month ago, just for the ease of towing a small car. I'm still not a fan of owning extra cars, but I will see how I like it. If I don't, I'll be buying a midsize truck at the end of the year and sell my Silverado and CRV.

I had a 6K tow bar, but bought a 10K bar when I added the RZR to the bed. I would go with a 10K bar as the weight really isn't any different and it gives you some added piece of mind, especially if you buy something heavy on a trip and bring it home in the bed of the truck.

Look on Craigslist. A lot of people constantly buying and selling tow bars.
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Just solved our issue. We have a new class c. Our tow options were a 07 f150 or a 14 nissan pathfinder. Both are 4x4. I did months of research. This is our first rv. Was shocked that neither vehicle could be towed. Nissan still under warrant, so did not want to chance any warranty issues. So focused on the 07 f150. I found one manufacturer, but was out of the u.s. , and only sold in bulk. So I had a conversation with the same man who has been servicing the vehicle since day one. He told my husband that I was crazy. Then he called and said he found it. It's a 2 part drive shaft with a quick disconnect under the drivers seat. And he installed the tow package on the rv and front of the f150. Right around 2k. But we did not want to sell our reliable, well maintained truck plus 7 to 8k for an unknown jeep, used. So if you're convenient to slidell louisiana, Dorrs automotive can do it. The only variance is the tow capacity is rated for about 500 pound gap. So that is where we will and can preserve. So a full size fridge can be empty until we hit base camp, it's all in the prep. Hope this helps someone!
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