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Old 04-24-2011, 07:20 PM   #1
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Towing Motorcycle and a Boat

I have a 2004 Tiffin Alegro 32BA. I'm looking for a motorcycle lift that can handle an 800 lb Harley and a 2700 lb boat being towed. I've been searching and can't find anything that will work. Has anybody here done this or do you have any ideas?

Coach Ratings are as follows:
GVWR: 20,700 lbs
GCWR: 26,000 lbs
Rear Axle: 13,500 lbs

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Old 04-24-2011, 09:45 PM   #2
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Hi Dave, I had a gas Winnebago Vectra, 34' on a P30 chassis. I had a custom hitch made to accommodate a 350 lb motorcycle and also was able to tow a 3500 lb boat. It worked for about 1000 miles and then took out the back end of the motorhome. The weight was too heavy for the 5000 lb hitch. I limped home for 500 miles by chaining it up. I bought a larger motorcycle a 1200 Suzuki bandit and now trailer it. I have seen these neat hydralic lifts for about $4500 at RV shows plus installation. This leaves your regular hitch for a boat or toad. I would not recommend this on a gasser though. Good luck, Mark
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I have hydra lift with a 900lb harley tow toyota on a tow dolly.works just fine

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Old 04-24-2011, 10:59 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info guys.

Cruisin,
Sorry to hear about what happened to you!!! Must have jacked things up pretty good. Exacly what happened to your hitch and frame?

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I've heard that you can do it with a toad, but can you do it with a trailer holding a boat. With a toad there isn't any downforce on the tongue like there is with a trailer bouncing up and down. That's the ultimate question. What do you think?
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I have a 2004 Tiffin Alegro 32BA. I'm looking for a motorcycle lift that can handle an 800 lb Harley and a 2700 lb boat being towed. I've been searching and can't find anything that will work. Has anybody here done this or do you have any ideas?

Coach Ratings are as follows:
GVWR: 20,700 lbs
GCWR: 26,000 lbs
Rear Axle: 13,500 lbs

Thanks,
Dave
We'd need the actual weights, and the wheelbase and overhang lengths, but I don't think you're going to be able to safely do what you want to do. A lift plus the Harley is going to be at least 1000 lbs. Plus 10% tongue weight for the boat trailer, and you're at 1300 lbs. With the multiplier from the rear axle overhang, I expect the additional rear axle loading will be in the 1750-2000 lb range. Do you have that much capacity available? If not, you're going to be overloading that axle.

And that doesn't even address the issues with the strength of the frame back there. That's a LOT of extra weight to be hanging off the frame that far back.

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I have hydra lift with a 900lb harley tow toyota on a tow dolly.works just fine

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On what RV? It makes a difference. And a tow dolly is a lot less tongue weight than a boat trailer.

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I have 39ft dp with hydra lift I don't have any problem with toyota on a tow dolly.
My harley on the lift. I also drove big trucks across this great nations of ours and have a lot miles under my belt..........dan
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I have 39ft dp with hydra lift I don't have any problem with toyota on a tow dolly.
My harley on the lift. I also drove big trucks across this great nations of ours and have a lot miles under my belt..........dan
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I have a 2004 Tiffin Alegro 32BA. I'm looking for a motorcycle lift that can handle an 800 lb Harley and a 2700 lb boat being towed. I've been searching and can't find anything that will work. Has anybody here done this or do you have any ideas?

Coach Ratings are as follows:
GVWR: 20,700 lbs
GCWR: 26,000 lbs
Rear Axle: 13,500 lbs
From the weight rating of the original poster, I don't think they have a DP.

This is going to make adding an extra 1,000 lbs to the bumper area tough.
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From the weight rating of the original poster, I don't think they have a DP.

This is going to make adding an extra 1,000 lbs to the bumper area tough.
Agreed. I really wish posters would take a minute and think about whether their experience with their rig is at all applicable to the question at hand. I don't know much about Tiffens, but when I looked up that model, it sure looked like a gasser with a really long overhang in the back. Not something you want to try loading down in the back.

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From the weight rating of the original poster, I don't think they have a DP.

This is going to make adding an extra 1,000 lbs to the bumper area tough.
800lbs bike + 270lbs min for trailer weight + 400lbs for the lift = 1.470 min. weight on the back frame and axle. No way on a Gasser frame. You might be able to do it on a tag axle DP.
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SOME OTHER DETAILS:

Here's the link to the coach. Model 32BA. http://www.tiffinmotorhomes.com/pdf/...legroSpecs.pdf

This particular Tiffin model has the longer wheelbase which I'm assuming should help matters. It is 228 inches from center of rim to center of rim. Some motor homes are 208".

The measurement from the center of rear axle to the back of the RV is 9'8" or 116 inches.

The frame is split in the middle with about an 8 foot "C" channel wrapping both front and rear frame rails and welded.

One question...what do you all mean by "overloading the axle"? Do you mean overloading the springs on that axle?
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Can there be some work done to the frame rails to beef them up?
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How do you plan to steer with the front wheels off the ground?
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How do you plan to steer with the front wheels off the ground?

Now I see the real problem. Thanks!!!!
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