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Old 06-12-2012, 11:19 PM   #1
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Towing suburban and weight

Hey all

I have a 2010 tiffin allegro RED. 6.7 ISB. Tiffin states can tow 5000lbs. I have heard that it is because of hitch. I've also heard it is because of the Allison 2500 tran.
Too much risk to tow suburban 5700 lbs? The weight in motorhome overall is probably pretty low. Never have full water. Mostly kids and duffle bags for luggage. Not a lot of stuff in RV.
We have 5 kids and we are trying to plan some trips where we need a toad to get a few places. We already have our suburban. If not wise then would need to invest in smaller toad. There are a few that have three seats like a Honda crv.

Also what would be the avg cost to get a toad ready to tow?

Thanks to those who opine

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Old 06-12-2012, 11:32 PM   #2
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I just set up my 09 full size p/u with bar and brakes, everything new and am right at 3800 complete ready to go
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Don't think its because of the tranny, I have the same 2500 allison in mine and tow rating of 10,000 lb, probably the hitch or overall weight. I also tow suburban 4 down with no problems
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Max towable weight is the LESSER of:

1. GCWR minus actual coach weight.

2. Chassis manufacturers towing rating.

3. Coach manufacturers towing rating.

4. Hitch rating.
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Talk to the manufacturer. Find out why it's rated at 5,000#. It might be as simple as changing out the hitch. Or, it could be more involved.
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:51 PM   #7
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The hitch is 10,000 lb hitch. It must be due to GVWR. I will talk to manufacturer.
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Getting your actual axle weights would be a good idea too so you know where you stand. It will also help with tire pressures.

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According to the Freightliner specs on the Chassis for the 2010 Allegro Red, the GCWR is 33,000 lb due to the Allison 2500 transmission limits.
See the footnote here:

http://freightlinerchassis.com/image...egro%20Red.pdf

That actually leaves only 3500 lb tow capacity IF the coach is loaded to its full GVWR or 29,500. And it may be that heavy if it is carrying 2 adults and 5 kids plus their gear. Clearly Chad needs to get the coach weighed and find out just how much room is left between the actual coach weight and the GCWR. However, I suspect the 5800 lb Suburban is going to be too much for it.
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Thanks so much. Hey, does anyone know if a port of entry will weigh an RV? Do they have scales at truck stops?
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If you want to do it right you need to weigh all four corners individually. You can often get this done at rallys. Other than that, I'm not sure where to find anyone with that ability.
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Thanks so much. Hey, does anyone know if a port of entry will weigh an RV? Do they have scales at truck stops?
Escapees in Livingston, TX have an excellent weighing program.
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Most truck stops have scales that will weigh each axle in one pass through the scales. See the Cat Scales web site for locations. About $9-$10.
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The hitch is 10,000 lb hitch. It must be due to GVWR. I will talk to manufacturer.
You can also bump up your towing capacity of hitch by going to "qualified" hitch installed and have them re-enforce the connection to your rig.
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