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Old 03-08-2016, 03:32 PM   #1
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TrailHawk Death wobble thread

I started a separate thread for TrailHawk owners because my dealer told me that my TrailHawk WAS NOT on the VIN list of vehicles needing this change.

I have a copy of the change, and it states it is for vehicles with 5I4 4WD systems (mine is 5I4S).

However, some folks with TrailHawks have reported the "Death Wobble" also.

I want to find out if anyone with a TrailHawk has actually had the mod installed, or if the dealer turned them away.

If you would like to comment on the regular Cherokee, there is another thread for that model.

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I went to the dealership yesterday and was told the same thing. Our trailhawk is new, so we have only towed it a few miles. No wobble so far. Our 2014 Cherokee wobbled once in 15,000 miles
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There are at least four reports for Trailhawks on the Jeep Cherokee Club forum under the subject titled "Severe shaking problen towing behind motorhome"

The revised Owner Manual now has the following caution added, and it doesn't make any mention of Trailhawks being excluded.

I personally feel that FCA is dragging their feet on this issue. Considering the possible consequences of this occurring at speeds of even 60 mph, I think it should be issued as a safety recall and not just a TSB.
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We are considering the Trail Hawk for our dinghy. Is it possible for you to post a copy of the change. Our dealer has no idea what we are talking about.
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We are considering the Trail Hawk for our dinghy. Is it possible for you to post a copy of the change. Our dealer has no idea what we are talking about.
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Attached is the TSB, however if you're buying a new one, this problem does not exist on any KL Cherokee built after 2/16/16.

The revised manual can be located here: Jeep Owners | Download an Owners Manual 2004 - 2011 | Jeep
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Attached is the TSB, however if you're buying a new one, this problem does not exist on any KL Cherokee built after 2/16/16.

The revised manual can be located here: Jeep Owners | Download an Owners Manual 2004 - 2011 | Jeep
I wonder if this is really a true statement, OR if the wiring kit has already been installed in those vehicles.
I would be upset if there was a more “User Friendly” solution on the 2016 models after Feb.

ALSO: I noticed there are no instructions on how to use the new towing kit, when to turn on the switch.
AND: now the manual says to have the engine "OFF" when shifting the transfer case IN/OUT of neutral (used to want the engine running).

This whole thing is getting crazy....

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Thanks for the info on the Trail Hawk. I do however have another question and since we are so new to this it may sound like a silly question. When towing the Trail Hawk does the mileage register.
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Thanks for the info on the Trail Hawk. I do however have another question and since we are so new to this it may sound like a silly question. When towing the Trail Hawk does the mileage register.
No, it does not.

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I started a separate thread for TrailHawk owners because my dealer told me that my TrailHawk WAS NOT on the VIN list of vehicles needing this change.

I have a copy of the change, and it states it is for vehicles with 5I4 4WD systems (mine is 5I4S).

However, some folks with TrailHawks have reported the "Death Wobble" also.

I want to find out if anyone with a TrailHawk has actually had the mod installed, or if the dealer turned them away.

If you would like to comment on the regular Cherokee, there is another thread for that model.

Regards,

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Trailhawks are just as susceptible as any of the 2 speed 4wd KL Cherokees. In the early days there was some confusion about the ActiveDrive II - 2 speed 4wd system and the Trailhawk's ActiveDrive Lock. The latter feature adds a locking differential but it otherwis ethe same as ADII. The wobble problem has little to do with the trans, rather it's a "feature"of the design of the front end suspension and steering systems.

I'd be reluctant to believe anything from a dealer who attempts to sell you on a Cherokee without the tow kit, if you tell them you intend it to be used as a towed vehicle.
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Attached is the TSB, however if you're buying a new one, this problem does not exist on any KL Cherokee built after 2/16/16.

The revised manual can be located here: Jeep Owners | Download an Owners Manual 2004 - 2011 | Jeep
Even the 2016 manual has the statement:
"Failure to use the proper Mopar wiring kit to power
the steering system during recreational towing may
damage the vehicle’s steering system and/or other
vehicle components."
That seems to imply that the problem still exists for all 2016's. It could be that those built after 2/16 already have the switch and fuseholder installed.
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I am looking at a Trailhawk with the "5I4S" sales code. I was told by the dealer that it didn't need it. I checked with Kori at Jeep Care and she had never heard of the 5I4S code. She checked what she called the S13 list against the vin and said this vehicle would require a wiring harness. I am guessing that all Trailhawks will need one of you are going to flat tow.

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I am looking at a Trailhawk with the "5I4S" sales code. I was told by the dealer that it didn't need it. I checked with Kori at Jeep Care and she had never heard of the 5I4S code. She checked what she called the S13 list against the vin and said this vehicle would require a wiring harness. I am guessing that all Trailhawks will need one of you are going to flat tow.

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Yes, in fact all 'towable' Cherokees, the ones with 2-speed 4WD and a neutral button, are subject to wobble issues.
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For the record, my TrailHawk started a "wobble event" at about 60mph. /ken
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For the record, my TrailHawk started a "wobble event" at about 60mph. /ken
OUCH!

I hope you all are OK.

Best to let Jeep know about your issue ASAP and get the tow kit installed.
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