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03-02-2008, 07:56 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Nor'easters Club Freightliner Owners Club
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Any feedback on using the Unified Tow Brake System for my Toad with a W22 Chassis would be greatly appreciated.I have been Toad Brake shopping for too long now and need to bite the bullet and buy something. Always seems to be an issue with BB and any other "On-Off " type system. Dealer wants $1700 to install a Unified in coach and toad. Please do not bother to comment on "I like my brake buddy because....." I have been researching too long and have read most every comment on the net. I already realize I need one and why. Please and thanks.
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Tiffin Allegro Bus, Honda CRV, Tow-N-4 Down, US Gear Unified Tow brake, Blue-OX tow bar, Dually Valve stems, TST Monitors, No Kids-No Pets, Full Time Wanna Be
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03-02-2008, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner Nor'easters Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: MAINE
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Any feedback on using the Unified Tow Brake System for my Toad with a W22 Chassis would be greatly appreciated.I have been Toad Brake shopping for too long now and need to bite the bullet and buy something. Always seems to be an issue with BB and any other "On-Off " type system. Dealer wants $1700 to install a Unified in coach and toad. Please do not bother to comment on "I like my brake buddy because....." I have been researching too long and have read most every comment on the net. I already realize I need one and why. Please and thanks.
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Tiffin Allegro Bus, Honda CRV, Tow-N-4 Down, US Gear Unified Tow brake, Blue-OX tow bar, Dually Valve stems, TST Monitors, No Kids-No Pets, Full Time Wanna Be
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03-02-2008, 09:33 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: CA
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I have the Unified Tow Brake System on my W-22. My toad is a 2007 Jeep Sahara. The system works very well and I highly recommend it.
I had a BrakePro, and IMHO it was a POS. I wouldn't buy one again.
The only other brake system that I have heard works as well is the M&G.
Good luck,
Bill
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04 Winnebago Adventurer 38R
Workhorse W22
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03-02-2008, 03:52 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner Winnebago Owners Club
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bdaball: I also use the USG product on my W-22. When our original toad got totalled, I removed the USG equipment and paid to have it re-installed in the new Vue toad. It works as advertised.
As Photog posted, the M&G product is also highly dependable, but it requires a small air compressor and tank be added to the MH. I've also heard very good results from the SMI "Air Force One" and, since they are a sponsor here on iRV2.com, I suggest you check out their product and cost. FWIW, I'm thinking the price you mentioned "seems" a little high for the USG, however there is a LOT of labor involved in it's install. Good luck with you choice. ED
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Itasca SC 2010 37F on W-24 WB248" stock + plug wires vent kit added.
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03-02-2008, 04:03 PM
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Newmar Owners Club Texas Boomers Club
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I bought a used one and installed it myself. I had to make some hookup cables and a buy few other parts. But, the total cost was under $300.
I really like mine and can't believe that I ran as many years without auxiliary braking.
I did a writeup and posted on IRV2. I also have it posted on my web site.
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Dale/aka-Oemy Oemy's UltraPower Performance
Ultra Power'd/Ultra Trac'd/Magnum Plug Wires/AC 41-101's/DIY CAI/Koni's
2004 Mountain Aire MACA 3651-1997 Honda CRV - Toad
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03-02-2008, 05:58 PM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Location: California
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I also have the USG and this is the third coach and the 3rd toad it has been installed on. Only had one problem about five years ago, the control module went bad and had to be replaced. That was on the second toad and the second coach.
My current coach is a 2003 W-22 and it has worked great.
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2003 35-E Bounder W-22
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03-03-2008, 06:07 AM
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Location: Home location, Matlock, WA
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My Unified Tow Brake is on it't second toad. It has served me well and I do recommend it.
I bought it originally at the RV show in Quartzsite in 2003. The dealer offered to install it for $300. It looked like a piece of cake to me, so I did the install myself. I never worked so hard for $300. When I moved it from my 1993 Toy truck to my current toad, I redid the wireing to make it fit and it was much simpler.
Bob...
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2003 Dolphin 5342, W-22 Chassis, 22.5" Tires w/a spare, Monroe Shocks. Ultrapower ECM Upgrade.
2004 Toyota RAV4 toad, 2wd, 5 speed. US Gear toad brake.
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03-03-2008, 09:00 AM
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Location: Fullerton, CA
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Like others, I really like my USG. I did my own install. It was a bit of work and a real learning experience. It works really well and I would recommend it. Especially the conveninece of hooking up and not having to hassle with setting a brake on the floor and trying to figure where to put it when I take it out of the toad. That was a big factor for me.
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Mike and Linda
2 little doges Lola and Tilly
2008 National Dolphin DX35Ci, 2007 Saturn VUE
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03-04-2008, 06:29 AM
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To those of you that have did your own install with the USG Tow brake - I need some advice.
I recently bought a new coach - National RV SeaBreeze.
I already had everything wired on my former coach and TOAD. I removed the RV portion when I traded. My TOAD is wired and working. On the new RV I've run all the wires for everything except the tie-in to the brake light switch wire.
I kept the old instructions but they don't seem to be of any help in testing and identifying the brake light switch wire on the new W22.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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03-04-2008, 08:17 AM
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Workhorse Chassis Owner National RV Owners Club
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Location: Pasadena,CA
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Curious,
What year is your Sea Breeze, the make & year of your toad and type of plug you installed to RV (Number of terminals)?
Ed
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2005 National RV, 36' Dolphin 5355, W22 - Front & Rear trac bars, IPD rear anti-sway bar, Koni FSD Shocks, UltraPower programming.
2000 Jeep Wrangler, Brake Buddy
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03-04-2008, 03:45 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jeepster47:
Curious,
What year is your Sea Breeze, the make & year of your toad and type of plug you installed to RV (Number of terminals)?
Ed  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I have a 2008 SeaBreeze. My TOAD is 2004 Jeep Wrangler. The Jeep has a fully installed Unified Tow Brake system from USGear which I installed. It is fully tested and worked perfectly with my previous setup. For plugs: I have two separate plugs one for lighting (simple 4-wire system - hooked to extra bulbs in Jeep tail lights) and the standard 2-wire factory USGear hook-up for the electrical connections from the brake controller in the RV to the TOAD.
My main objective is to identify the brake light wire from the brake light switch in the area of the brake pedal under the dash of the RV.
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03-04-2008, 05:28 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fullerton, CA
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I think you are talking about what wire to tap into above the brake pedal. Dale (Oemtech) has a picture of his install on his website- click Oemys Website and scroll down to his USG brake install. There is a picture of under his dash. That is the one he sent my way when I couldn't figure it out. It was a great help. THANKS again Dale - BTW.
I think it was the blue wire that you splice the diode into. I am too lazy to go and look in my coach right now. Sorry
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Mike and Linda
2 little doges Lola and Tilly
2008 National Dolphin DX35Ci, 2007 Saturn VUE
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