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Old 01-04-2013, 01:57 PM   #1
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What all is needed to tow a toad?

We'll be picking up our DP tomorrow and we would like to buy a cheap toad to tow around when we go certain places just so we have a second car to drive. I'd like to tow 4 wheels on the ground.

What all is needed for the MH?

What all is needed for the toad?

I'm looking at buying a 10 year old 4x4 vehicle like a Jeep Grand Cherokee
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You'll need a base plate for the towed vehicle, a compatible tow bar, brake system for the towed, (either built in to the tow bar -- ReadyBrake, or some other system) and a wiring kit for brake, turn and running lights.

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I purchased a new base plate and installed it myself, but bought the tow bar on Craigslist for a fraction of new list price. Brake system was new on eBay for 1/3 price of retail, but I'd prefer a ReadyBrake for simplicity and ease of use. Wiring I did myself by adding sockets and LED lights to present towed tail lights. I felt it was simpler and cheaper than diodes with my auto's 2 light system of separate brake and turn lights.
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From my calculations...about $3,500.00 parts and labor.
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For a toad, I'd prefer to keep it in a nice box. Now for a dinghy, I want to have a nice tow bar and a good braking system.

REMCO Towing Products is a good place to start shopping.

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You'll need a base plate for the towed vehicle, a compatible tow bar, brake system for the towed, (either built in to the tow bar -- ReadyBrake, or some other system) and a wiring kit for brake, turn and running lights.

Readybrake RV Tow Bars and RV Surge Braking Systems for Car Towing - NSA RV Products
Trailer Hitches, Trailer Hitch Bike Racks & Trailer Hitch Accessories | Hitchsource.com

I purchased a new base plate and installed it myself, but bought the tow bar on Craigslist for a fraction of new list price. Brake system was new on eBay for 1/3 price of retail, but I'd prefer a ReadyBrake for simplicity and ease of use. Wiring I did myself by adding sockets and LED lights to present towed tail lights. I felt it was simpler and cheaper than diodes with my auto's 2 light system of separate brake and turn lights.
Man that's a lot of stuff! I assume you can wire the lights on the toad to the MH like a trailer right?
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From my calculations...about $3,500.00 parts and labor.
That's about correct if you go to a dealer and ask them to do it all. My Blue Ox base plate, $350. (installed myself) Tow bar, $170 (Blue Ox Aventa) BrakePro proportional, $325 eBay and wiring, bulbs, sockets about $45 various sources. I use a 6 pin wire harness between RV and towed, with one pin (normally the brake controller) dedicated to keeping battery in towed charged. I've had no issues in 8,000 miles of travel, but as I said, I'd prefer a ReadyBrake for simplicity. The BrakePro is sort of a pain to position on driver's brake pedal and remove each time. I did have labor in wiring towed, refurbishing the tow bar, (cosmetic) etc., but as you can see, it was under a $1,000. My wiring came from a Harbor Freight trailer wiring connection kit,($8) with eBay purchased 6 pin sockets and a Blue Ox coiled cable.

A little DIY can save a lot, the installation labor costs a bunch!
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Man that's a lot of stuff! I assume you can wire the lights on the toad to the MH like a trailer right?
Mostly. It depends on if you have two bulb (brake, turn combined and running light) or three bulb (brake, turn, running all separate). Also, you need to use either separate lights in the towed or install isolating diodes to keep electricity from RV backfeeding into towed circuits. Magnetic add on lights can simplify this, I couldn't use them because my VW has plastic fenders and sharply angled metal panels in back. Tow Lights - Save on this 12V Magnetic Towing Light Kit
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It appears all I need it this:
Ready Brute aluminum tow bar, Blue Ox base plate and 5K safety cables. INCLUDING SHIPPING

And the lights and wiring you talked about above BFlinn. Looks Like I'll get it all done for around $1,200.
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It appears all I need it this:
Ready Brute aluminum tow bar, Blue Ox base plate and 5K safety cables. INCLUDING SHIPPING

And the lights and wiring you talked about above BFlinn. Looks Like I'll get it all done for around $1,200.
That would be a good rig. Don't buy the base plate before you have the vehicle, they are custom to each model and year. After you have the car, you can determine the best wiring kit for the vehicle. I use the 5k safety cables from Blue Ox, they are easy to hook up.
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Demco Tow Bars - The 'Dominator' - YouTube Here is another to look at.Around $695.00
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I tried the Ready brute was not satisfied with it, felt like it did not stop good enough for me, Great idea but not best way stop when coming to a slow stop or you are in traffic and maybe coming down a mountain, just my opinion. You always need proggresive stopping power for a lack of better words, I am a proffesional tractor trailer driver for 28 years. And you should always have stopping power, safety has no price.
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documents. Lots of liability issues out their for them to contend with and lack of financial funds for testing for a small part of the market that might want to tow.

But talk to mechanics and people that do tow all wheels on the road wih car in neutral and the engine running. You will find good information. But if you are conservative and dont want wont go beyond your book so be it. I have found many that have not done the research and yet seem to know all the dtails as to why you can not. even seniors of this web site and those that have been around.

I have towed many cars automatics in neutral all four wheels on the ground and no problem..but i have done my reserch .and dont think that other options will not exhibit other problems..like oil box 12vote pumps and axle cut offs and tow dollys..etc

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