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Old 10-15-2011, 01:57 PM   #99
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my email jsheriff@aol.com would enjoy discussing my 4yrs experience towing 4 down
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Old 10-15-2011, 02:53 PM   #100
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Old 10-15-2011, 06:05 PM   #101
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Towed a Escape by dolly, boy that was a chore.

Now towing a 2010 Chev Equinox, 4 down and love it. You can feel the weight on acceloration but not any real issue.
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:54 AM   #102
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What does the Aspen weigh? What is your GCWR? I assume your hitch is rated for 5,000 pounds. Does the coach weigh 22,000 ready for the road or is that the GVWR? If the latter and you have not loaded up and weighed the coach wyou don't know where you stand.

In an admittedly unlikely scenario if your coach's actual weight ready to roll with all of you on board weighs 21,000 lbs at the scale and your GCWR is 26,000 you could pull a 5,000 lb tow'd and be within all of your ratings.

The weight issue is more about load on the coach than it is about legal. I have yet to hear of a privately owned coach being required to be weighed. There are many overloaded coaches rolling down the road. This is not to minimize the risk of being overloaded, we try to stay well within our weight ratings when underway. I allow for 100 gal of fresh water and plan on empty holding tanks to stay under.

As a salesman once said to me when pushing an overweight coach, "you could keep the FW tank empty and save 800 lbs" I said, "but what do I use for water when I dry camp by choice or if forced to do that"
My aspen curb weight is just under 5000 lbs. the Sebring is 3350. I can't tell how much the coach actually weighs but I see tiffin says it weighs 22000 lbs ( ford v10 22k chassis they say).
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Old 10-16-2011, 01:57 PM   #103
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We have towed a 2003 Chevy Trailblazer and now a 2005 Jeep Liberty. All the Jeeps with 4x4 transfer cases can be towed 4 down and I believe all the GM 4x4 trucks can be towed 4 down. In all our travels I believe I have noticed more Jeeps being towed than any other vehicle. We use a Blue Ox tow bar and M&G Engineerings braking system.
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Old 10-16-2011, 03:27 PM   #104
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My aspen curb weight is just under 5000 lbs. the Sebring is 3350. I can't tell how much the coach actually weighs but I see tiffin says it weighs 22000 lbs ( ford v10 22k chassis they say).
Tiffin does not say actual weight is 22,000 pounds. If you read the placard near the driver, that is listed as the GVWR which is the maximum weight the unit is rated to carry, including itself. The only way to know what your actual weight is is to load it up and find a scale to weigh it. Any truck stop with a scale will give you Axle weights for a fee. The placard also show Gross axle weightsThe sum of the gross axle weights may or may not equal the GVWR. always work with the lower number.

Also on that placard is a GCWR which is the maximum weight of the coach plus any towed vehicle combined. Generally the chassis you are on with the GVWR of 22,000 lbs has a GCWR of 26,000 lbs. Assuming you are near the 22K limit for the coach you would be overweight with the Aspen. You are not obligated to be within those limits by law, but the laws of physics tend to be less flexible. There is no way to know how much safety margin the manufacturer of each part built in.

I am not an engineer, lawyer, or doctor nor do I even play one, but I have been RVing for 11 years and my current coach has 22k GVWR and 26k GCWR for what its worth and my actual weight tends to be about 150 to 250 lbs less than the GVWR and the RAV4 is 3,500 lbs
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:35 PM   #105
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Currently tow a 2000 Jeep Wrangler. Nothing to do but hook it up and go. Just follow the owners manual directions. It tow easy and I have had no problems. Looked at a 2011 Wrangler but for now will keep my TJ as there are no issues with the Jeep.
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Old 10-16-2011, 05:31 PM   #106
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I tow a 2011 Chevy Malibu LTZ, 4 wheels down using a blue ox tow bar and a brake buddy. Hook up and go takes 3 to 5 minutes at the most. If it wasn't for the rear camera you wouldn't know it was there.

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I have towed a Ford Expedition over 30,000 miles, works great, we stuff it with extra things as the need arrises. Also, split drive shaft, air brake assist, etc.
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We tow a 2005 Suzuki Aerio 4 (5 Spd) down, with a Winnebago Vectra. We have made a couple trips with it,my only concern is it really gets so dirty after 500-600 miles and there is a smell in it (I think it is exhaust) after we undock. But it does go away quickly.
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:58 PM   #111
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We tow a 2005 Suzuki Aerio 4 (5 Spd) down, with a Winnebago Vectra. We have made a couple trips with it,my only concern is it really gets so dirty after 500-600 miles and there is a smell in it (I think it is exhaust) after we undock. But it does go away quickly.
Hadn't thought about the road dirt and the smells. I wonder if there is a way to avoid that?

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