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Old 08-17-2016, 11:42 AM   #57
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Rick, the Death Wobble issue is primarily experienced with a straight axle design vehicle. In the '05-'10 year range you mention the Grand Cherokees utilize an IFS front suspension design which drastically reduces this problem. In fact, I don't recall seeing a single complaint of this problem on these models... of course a quick Google search will confirm the problematic year/models. I have zero experience with the "newer" models produced from 2011-current and they may, or may not, exhibit some of the DW traits.

Based on your description of intended usage and desired features the '05-'10 Grand Cherokee Limited will serve you well. It's difficult to sort through the info on this thread as much of it addresses year and or models well outside your preference. Please PM me if I can provide more info, specs, or personal experiences with the GC's in your target range; we've been towing, offroading, driving them since '05...Played with Jeep's since 1969. Best of luck with your search!
Thunderfoot- I do appreciate the information and your offer for additional via PM. Thanks.
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My understanding is FCA has related the problem to the electronic power steering (EPS) and the Technical Bulletin adds a switch that applies power to the EPS while towing. The wiring change installs that wiring.
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Old 08-20-2016, 10:42 AM   #59
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If anyone gets an older CJ to tow many of them have locking hubs on the front axle. I am not sure with all transfer cases, but on my 1977 CJ5 you had to make sure the front hubs were engaged while flat towing. If not the rear bearing would get no lube.

The death wobble can happen with any straight front axle vehicle, 4X4 or not. The cause is from either having the front axle geometry set up wrong. This can happen with many rigs after bigger tires and lifts are installed. The usual culprit on many death wobble events is worn out tie rod ends, trac bar bushings are shot, knuckle ball joints going bad, worn out control arm bushings, bad shocks or steering stabilizer.
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my dad and i have towed jeeps yrs. 52-74, never had a problem. hubs unlocked, trans in neutral. not sure in later yrs. i'm now working on putting hubs on my 14. we'll see
how that works.
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The death wobble can happen with any straight front axle vehicle, 4X4 or not. The cause is from either having the front axle geometry set up wrong. This can happen with many rigs after bigger tires and lifts are installed. The usual culprit on many death wobble events is worn out tie rod ends, trac bar bushings are shot, knuckle ball joints going bad, worn out control arm bushings, bad shocks or steering stabilizer.
THIS ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^^ ^^ is ABSOLUTELY correct.

There has never, EVER been a Grand Cherokee or new version of the Cherokee that has "Death Wobble". It is isolated to vehicles that have a straight front axle ... not independent suspension. As said above, it is ALWAYS caused by worn components, misalignment, or tires out of balance. It isn't isolated to Jeeps either. I have witnessed it on older Ford 4x4 trucks with the solid front axle.

The Jeep Wrangler is by far the best utility vehicle that has ever been manufactured. When properly maintained they are solid, reliable, and pleasant to drive. They require no more maintenance than any other vehicle, but they will protest loudly if routine maintenance is neglected.
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The Jeep Wrangler is by far the best utility vehicle that has ever been manufactured. When properly maintained they are solid, reliable, and pleasant to drive. They require no more maintenance than any other vehicle, but they will protest loudly if routine maintenance is neglected.
I had a 1977 CJ-5 and currently have a 2006 Rubicon LJ. The 2006 is close to worth what it was new! LOL Not many LJ Rubicons built I guess. They only built them 2 years.
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Well,
We've towed 8 different Jeeps over a 30 year period and, all of them were built for serious off road fun. We've had (3) CJs, (2) YJs, (3) TJs, -- the last two of which were Rubicons and now, we just purchased what you see below, a 2015 JKU Rubicon, "Hydro Blue Pearl Coat". Man, do we love that color. Anyway, the newer model Jeep Wranglers, as in around '07 and up, specifically the '12s and UP, are seriously light years above the old CJs, YJs, and TJs.

Way more user friendly, way more responsive, TONS MORE POWER in that newer Pentastar V-6 285, 260 ft.lbs. of torque engine. The only thing we don't like are those dumb-a$$ MUD Terrain tires. Those will be sold as soon as possible. Anyway, I'll be setting it all up real soon for towing and off road fun. I'm not going to go crazy this time with the lift etc. We're just going for medium trails etc. Been to Moab a few dozen times, Colorados Black Bear pass a few times, and, done the actual "RUBICON" trail twice. So, it's more mild stuff for us now.
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My understanding is FCA has related the problem to the electronic power steering (EPS) and the Technical Bulletin adds a switch that applies power to the EPS while towing. The wiring change installs that wiring.
Just for clarity sake, what you're referring to is applicable to the 2014+ Jeep Cherokees, and it is more than a TSB, it is an official recall. It does not apply to the Grand Cherokees.
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