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Old 11-26-2014, 04:13 PM   #1
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Wrangler behind a F550 based motorhome, braking using standard brake control?

If I tow a trailer behind the motorhome, the standard equipment brake controller sends a proportional signal to the electric brakes on the trailer. Is there a system that uses the same controller for 4 down towing a Wrangler? I think I understand there would have to be some way to turn the electric signal into hydraulic pressure in the Wrangler.

I would like to have a system that after setup is plug and play.

Thanks in advance for the explanation and advice.
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Old 11-26-2014, 05:34 PM   #2
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If I tow a trailer behind the motorhome, the standard equipment brake controller sends a proportional signal to the electric brakes on the trailer. Is there a system that uses the same controller for 4 down towing a Wrangler? I think I understand there would have to be some way to turn the electric signal into hydraulic pressure in the Wrangler.

I would like to have a system that after setup is plug and play.

Thanks in advance for the explanation and advice.
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It's already done for you Sir. It's called the "Ready Brute" tow bar and braking system. Or, the little brother of it is the Ready Brake system, using any other tow bar. It's totally automatic and no need to manually control the brake pressure in the toad. The system does it all for you.
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The short answer is no. Nobody is building a device to convert the electric brake controller signal back to hydraulic.

You can get various toad brake systems that are proportional - most of them are these days - but they don't utilize the standard 7-pin electric brake controller.
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I am towing my Buick Park Avenue (3500 pounds) with my Dodge Fleetwood Tioga class c that has the Dodge 440 rated at 750 HP. I asked about putting a ready brake system in. The mechanic said my rv has so much braking power already, I don't need trailer brakes. I fairly believe it. My rv brakes are very touchy. I could get the electronic brake system if I wanted it because I already have the wiring to support it.
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dnhill, Look at the Brake Buddy Stealth, the controller in the motorhome will work with there unit in the vehicle or also work with trailer brakes. Give them a call there in vehicle unit may work with the Ford trailer brake controller.
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I am towing my Buick Park Avenue (3500 pounds) with my Dodge Fleetwood Tioga class c that has the Dodge 440 rated at 750 HP. I asked about putting a ready brake system in. The mechanic said my rv has so much braking power already, I don't need trailer brakes. I fairly believe it. My rv brakes are very touchy. I could get the electronic brake system if I wanted it because I already have the wiring to support it.
Cimplexsound......you may want to check state laws for towing. Most require braking on tows, as well as emergency breakaway systems.
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Cimplexsound......you may want to check state laws for towing. Most require braking on tows, as well as emergency breakaway systems.
Trailer brakes are not required in Utah or Arizona. But you do have to have double towing chains. Plus tires chains are required in mountainous areas if posted. So yes I do know the laws here. I will get tire chains if the weather Calls for them.


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my Dodge Fleetwood Tioga class c that has the Dodge 440 rated at 750 HP. I asked about putting a ready brake system in. The mechanic said my rv has so much braking power already, I don't need trailer brakes.
I think your mechanic must have flunked high school physics. Unless those brakes & wheels have had a major upgrade, they are designed only to stop the chassis GVWR weight, and probably not all that great even at that. Braking is simply a matter of number of sq inches of brake shoe(s) versus the total weight x speed, and you can only fit so much brake shoe in a 16" wheel.

Touchy brakes doesn't mean you have a lot of braking power - it just means they "grab" quickly.

Believe what you like, but I would recommend that you get a toad brake.
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I am towing my Buick Park Avenue (3500 pounds) with my Dodge Fleetwood Tioga class c that has the Dodge 440 rated at 750 HP. I asked about putting a ready brake system in. The mechanic said my rv has so much braking power already, I don't need trailer brakes. I fairly believe it. My rv brakes are very touchy. I could get the electronic brake system if I wanted it because I already have the wiring to support it.
I would be more worried about "jerking" the front end off of it with that kind of Horsepower than stopping it
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Trailer brakes are required in Arizona when the trailer is over 3000lbs.
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