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Old 05-27-2012, 10:39 AM   #1
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Wrangler too heavy for small C?

We're going to buy a new daily driver/toad. Our MH has an E-450 drivetrain/ 14,500# GVWR. The power's adequate but not great.

We'd narrowed our search down to a Honda Fit, which makes all kinds of sense including its 2600# weight. For us, a Fit also has zero fun factor - enter the Wrangler option. With AT, figure around 4,000# GVWR.

So, my question to you folks who have a similar MH drivetrain and toad weight is, how much difference will the Wrangler's additional half ton+ over the Fit make under most driving conditions?
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:36 PM   #2
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What is your GCWR...that is the important number?
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Equally important is the rating on the hitch....
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What is your GCWR...that is the important number?
GCWR is 20K, hitch is rated 500/5000. Either a Fit or a Wrangler would be within those capacities.

My question was whether E-450/V-10 owners think that drivetrain has enough power to pull a 4000 pound toad with reasonable performance.
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Pulls it fine, not gonna set any land speed records or race up any hills. Tow haul mode worked fine, ave. 8 mpg over 180 miles pulling jeep.
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i have pulled my jeep toad with a 2009 class c v10 and now with my current rig no problem with either we camped near by a few weeks back and my wife followed me in her 2012 explorer as we dont yet have a base plate some difference with toad vs no toad butnot enough to leave it home we live in a hilly area where elevation goes from about 400 to 2600 so i am not climbing the rockies but there is some challange.
i think your v 10 will do fine
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GCWR is 20K, hitch is rated 500/5000. Either a Fit or a Wrangler would be within those capacities.

My question was whether E-450/V-10 owners think that drivetrain has enough power to pull a 4000 pound toad with reasonable performance.
They may not be within the capacities until you do the numbers...the tow capacity is the GCWR of 20,000 minus the weight of the MH FULLY LOADED or the hitch capacity of 5,000...which ever is less. You need the weight of your fully loaded MH to see if you will be within the numbers.
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They may not be within the capacities until you do the numbers...the tow capacity is the GCWR of 20,000 minus the weight of the MH FULLY LOADED or the hitch capacity of 5,000...which ever is less. You need the weight of your fully loaded MH to see if you will be within the numbers.
If the owner stays within the rated capacities of the chassis there should be no problems. The GVWR is 14,500 lbs, the GCWR is 20,000 lbs, and the hitch is rated for 5,000 lbs.

We've towed either a Buick LeSabre on a dolly (4,200 lbs), or a Jeep Wrangler 4 down (3,750 lbs) behind our 2001 Winnebago Adventurer for nearly 100,000 miles. The V10 in the older class A's has 310 hp and 425 ft lbs of torque. That's only 5 hp and 5 ft lbs of torque more than the E-450. But the older class A has a GVWR of 20,500 lbs and a GCWR of 26,000 lbs.
In addition the new 450 has the tow haul mode transmission.
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