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Old 09-12-2012, 12:51 AM   #15
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My first guess is the ballast resistor, 2nd one would be the points need adjusting or replaced.
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No pionts just an early electronic ignition. There is a module mounted on the firewall, it will have four wires to it and is about the size of a deck of cards. In the distributor there is a magnetic pickup that might be rusted, just take a nail file and sand. Check the gap on the pickup. The module is available at most auto parts stores and they are all the same so just get one for a dodge of any model. Make sure the module is grounded very well.
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Thanks for all the advice. I have a few places to look now.
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does this vehicle have a condenser? if it does, that's the next possible place for a problem. just hang a test light off the coil to ground. You should see it flash while cranking.
I don't believe it has a condenser. When it's cranked I've tested for voltage through the ground with a multi meter. 12v+ are present.
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My first guess is the ballast resistor, 2nd one would be the points need adjusting or replaced.
I'll be taking a look at the ballast resistor. Might be the source of the issue. I haven't even got to the points yet. I've been checking for spark with the wire off the distributor.
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No pionts just an early electronic ignition. There is a module mounted on the firewall, it will have four wires to it and is about the size of a deck of cards. In the distributor there is a magnetic pickup that might be rusted, just take a nail file and sand. Check the gap on the pickup. The module is available at most auto parts stores and they are all the same so just get one for a dodge of any model. Make sure the module is grounded very well.
I would believe it is an early electronic ignition. Looks Like points when you pop the cap off but there are a few more wires hanging about it than I would think for just points.

I need to get the manual today. Educate myself a little more. The Winnie's either newer or older than anything I have worked on in the past.
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No pionts just an early electronic ignition. There is a module mounted on the firewall, it will have four wires to it and is about the size of a deck of cards. In the distributor there is a magnetic pickup that might be rusted, just take a nail file and sand. Check the gap on the pickup. The module is available at most auto parts stores and they are all the same so just get one for a dodge of any model. Make sure the module is grounded very well.
The module you refer to, is that the ballast resistor? Or something else?
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The module you refer to, is that the ballast resistor? Or something else?
There is a ballast resistor on the firewall also and a module for the ignition. There is also a votage regulator for the alternator. The module will have four or five wires with a round shaped plug and you can see the top of a power transistor on a heat sink. The balast resistor will be ceramic in construction with four wires, two at each end. the voltage regulator will have three wires and a plug shaped like a triangle. You can bypass the ballast resistor only for testing to see if you have spark. In my days past I always kept a module and resistor in my tool box for testing chrysler no starts.
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I replaced the ballast resistor yesterday. Not the problem. Today I'm planning to pull the distributor and take a closer look at the pick up and plate assembly. Still looking for the module. I found a Haynes for old Dodge vans. That will help until I get the Winnie manual.

I assume I have a 360, but after looking in the manual I have noticed the illustrations for a 360 and smaller show the distributor toward the back of the motor when mine is toward the front of the motor. And, the plug wires I bought for a 360 were too short. I suspect it's a 400 or bigger now. Any quick way the tell other than the vin? The vin indicated it was a 360 EFI from 94. At least that's what I get using the Haynes manual.
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Turns out the ignition module is missing completely. I found the wires tucked up and hidden from view. No wonder I couldn't find the thing.
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Turns out the ignition module is missing completely. I found the wires tucked up and hidden from view. No wonder I couldn't find the thing.
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It's been an educational day. Seems the motor is a 440 based on the casting number found on the bottom of the motor and lack of an engine ID where there should be one on a 360. I can't see around the distributor to find the engine ID#. But, I bought plug wires for a 440, and wouldn't you know, they fit.

The voltage regulator was also missing. What I thought was it I haven't yet identified. Looks similar with three wires and a long plug.

No wonder no spark.

The pick ups look good and I got the missing parts to put in tonight.

Anyone know if a coil on a 360 and a 440 are the same? For now Putting the old one back on.

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