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Old 06-25-2014, 03:53 PM   #1
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2005 Fleetwood Tioga 31M

Discovered a nice clean 2005 Tioga 31M with 25K miles for sale for $41,000... looked real nice and really like the layout.... a little longer than I wanted but wife likes the kitchen, bath and hall way on the side instead of open down the middle.... Tires looked original with some dry rotting....Paint a little faded but looks like it will clean up.... before I left, the seller offered it to me for $39,000 with 6 new Michelins installed... everything else looked good.... anyone have any feedback on these? From what I've read, it has a limited towing capacity of 3500 lbs....
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Old 06-25-2014, 05:49 PM   #2
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5000 lbs tow, 350 lbs tongue.
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:46 PM   #3
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Just found the following statement .

Tioga RV Towing Capacity | eHow

The towing capacity of the Tioga has changed in the past few years. In 2007, the towing capacity was rated at 3,500 lbs. But, as the 2009 models were introduced, the towing capacity rose to 5,000 lbs., and that remains the standard through the 2011 models.
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:03 AM   #4
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That has an extended chassis. The Ford E450 chassis from the factory was 5,000 Lbs. but there should be a label inside the RV put on by the manufacture. We have a 2006 Tioga with the E450 chassis and the capacity is 5,000 but ours is 26' so it does not have all that overhang in the back. Only go by the manufacturer's posted max tongue and tow weight posted inside the unit.
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Old 06-29-2014, 08:56 AM   #5
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Alas, your model and year has a 3500 pound towing capacity as is confirmed here:
http://fleetwoodrv.com/frvlibrary/do.../2005_ti_f.pdf

Some other models and years have more.

Before our current rig we had a 2001 Jamboree with a different floor plan (24D) but this 3500 limit and I made do by towing a 2003 Chevy Tracker (<3000 lbs) 4 down with a Roadmaster setup. I tried a dolly first with a different rig, but that added several hundred pounds of weight. I could tell the difference and had cooler tranny temps by going lighter.

We enjoyed our Fleetwood. Keep an eye on the roof near any skylights and the cab over transition from the rubber roof to the fiberglass of the overhead bunk. Our '01 has issues there to address as did an '06 29V that we looked at.

In our case we removed/replaced the skylight and the dicor self leveling lap sealant properly in both areas and installed new. The prior owner had just slapped sealant up there to no avail.
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We had an '05 Jamboree 31-M...I still miss it in a lot of ways. I agree on the layout- you'll love the enclosed bath especially on cold mornings. We also liked how the rear bedroom felt private with the acordian door closed. The side windows in the aisle let in lots of light when you want it. We had the big entertainment center up front (not the bunk). They are a very sound unit and we had very few issues. On ours, they used the wrong slide seals on the outside which caused them to stick a little when we deployed them. Instead of bringing it in I just sprayed them with silicon- that worked fine. The '05 was the first year of that floorplan and it remains my favorite over what they produced after '07. With 6 new tires it sounds good to me. Have you checked market ads for the same year model...it sounds a tad high but I havn't checked.
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We just bought a 2005 Four Winds chateau with 60,000 miles for $23,900 if that gives you any indication about where the price should be. I know it's a different model but maybe it'll help. Also, if you can get the VIN number and google it you might be able to see what the dealership bought it for. I googled the vin number of the one I ended up getting and I saw the dealership had bought it for $18,900 at auction and they were asking $30,000 and so with this knowledge I kinda knew how low I could actually talk them down. Hope this helps
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We have a 2009 fleet wood jamboree and also bought it used with 22,000 miles on it! No major probs we did replace all the batteries including the coach because we think they were the orginal.but love the layout.enjoy it!Click image for larger version

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some advice as I did the same, bought an older used very low mileage rv, same model as yours. you will find it good to change oil/filter engine and generator, new plug in gen. have the tranny fluid and filter replaced, coolant system flushed and replaced, new brakes and brake fluid, possible batteries and should have the front bearings repacked while at it.

also YOU SHOULD really consider the fuel filters and carefully check the fuel line on the generator, where it comes out of the gen back to the filter, odds are it will have dry rot, chips, cracks in it. now this stuff may be newish, with low miles, that is not the problem, the problem is things have timed out.. brake pads will still have plenty of meat, just be brittle, stuff like that. better be safe as you are buying a 10 model year old machine. it will be fine, just take care of that and your good to good for years. I did all that. also once done run your gen for 24 hours straight under 50/75 % load, turn on air and couple lights plus refrig, with some fuel cleaner system additive in the fuel system.
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We are also looking for a 2005-08 Tioga or Jamboree 31 footer. The hitch thing had me concerned since I flat tow my 3800lb Suzuki behind our current 25ft 2010 Chateau. So, I started a thread about it on another forum. Without going into a lot detail, the main consensus is a 3500lb rated hitch vs one rated at 5000.

So, if we do get one with a 3500 rated one, I will most like swap it out for a 5000. As long as you don't go over the vehicles total weight capacity, it should be fine.
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I have a 2005 Jamboree 30ft GT. I have recently pulled my wife's Ford Flex from Louisiana to Florida and back with out any issues. I honestly do not know the tow ratings but I had no issues at all with the pull. She ran like a champ.
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I have a 2005 Jamboree 30ft GT. I have recently pulled my wife's Ford Flex from Louisiana to Florida and back with out any issues. I honestly do not know the tow ratings but I had no issues at all with the pull. She ran like a champ.
I'm glad to hear it worked out for you, but that motor home was rated by Fleetwood to tow 3,500# and unless someone changed out the 3,500# hitch it came with , you also exceeded the hitch rating, with your Ford Flex.
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I don't think the problem is the hitch. It's that the 31Q has the chassis extended (not by the factory) so that lowers the original Ford E450 5,000 tow rating to 3,500. We bought a shorter 2006 Tioga 26Q and one of the reasons was it still has the higher cargo carrying and 5,000 tow capacity.
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I don't think the problem is the hitch. It's that the 31Q has the chassis extended (not by the factory) so that lowers the original Ford E450 5,000 tow rating to 3,500. We bought a shorter 2006 Tioga 26Q and one of the reasons was it still has the higher cargo carrying and 5,000 tow capacity.
I'm pretty sure that's not quite accurate. Ford had 14,050# GVW and 20,000# GCW ratings for those vehicles, not a 5,000# tow rating. Fleetwood decided to rate it for only 3,500# for towing and put the 3,500# hitch on it. Replacing the 3,500# hitch with a 5,000# hitch doesn't change Fleetwood's rating.
If that frame extension was done according to Ford's specs. the motor home should have retained the original Ford ratings.
I'm pretty sure if you looked at the frame on your 26Q, you would see that it also has had the frame extended. I have a 22' Coachmen that had the frame extended. It came from the factory with a 3,500# hitch. I had a welding shop fabricate a hitch that ties into the main frame eliminating any concerns about the frame extension.
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