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01-19-2017, 05:14 AM
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8 Cylinder Ford Motor?
Hi - This is my first post here!
My husband and I have bought our first Class C.
After searching for a year, I think we found a good deal on a 2012 Tioga Montara. It is a previous rental unit with 59K miles. We paid $31,000 for it. It's in excellent shape inside and out - no water damage and drives very smooth no rattles. (We did drive a couple larger Forest River RV's that sounded like they would fall apart!) The generator battery was dead so the dealer (small family business) is replacing the batteries. New tires put on last year. Being a rental, it was checked/serviced after every time out so I'm thinking that's a good thing. We've been looking for a smaller camper under 25ft with NO slides.
We went to Alaska for 2 weeks about 5 years ago, rented a Coachman Freelander that was about the same size and setup. We did mostly dry camping over the two weeks with a couple stays at campgrounds to fill/empty tanks, and we loved it, so it's been our dream to take a longer cross country trip.
Does anyone has any experience with the Tioga Montara 23B with 8 cylinder Ford motor? Will this motor be big enough for the mountains out west once we have all our gear loaded? From reading this forum, most of the Tiogas have the larger 10 cylinder motor, so now I'm kind of nervous about the smaller motor. We won't be towing anything, and it's just the two of us.
We are picking it up Saturday, and can't wait for spring to arrive!
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01-19-2017, 06:59 AM
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You probably have a 460 cubic inch engine. With a small rig, it will do a good job of motivating you around the country. If you find it lacks power, a Banks kit consisting of new headers and intake will help a great deal. Back in the 90's I had a Holiday Rambler Class A that was 32 ft long. The 460 did a good job even when I pulled a 8,000 lb trailer. I did add the Banks kit. Going up the same hill without the Banks kit, I could travel at 45 MPH, with the Banks kit, 53 MPH.
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01-19-2017, 07:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LJowdy
You probably have a 460 cubic inch engine. With a small rig, it will do a good job of motivating you around the country. If you find it lacks power, a Banks kit consisting of new headers and intake will help a great deal. Back in the 90's I had a Holiday Rambler Class A that was 32 ft long. The 460 did a good job even when I pulled a 8,000 lb trailer. I did add the Banks kit. Going up the same hill without the Banks kit, I could travel at 45 MPH, with the Banks kit, 53 MPH.
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The OP says it's a year 2012 MH. It won't have a 460 engine.
The 5.4, V8 is probably what he has.
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01-19-2017, 07:25 AM
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I had a 4.6 V8 2002 Ford Explorer EB for 14 years (218,000 miles). It ran flawlessly. Had normal maintenance repairs and was very well taken care of. New owner wanted to have a Ford dealer tech inspection done before purchase. Tech said to new owner if he didn't buy it he wanted it. Ford V8 is a great engine. The 4.6 is in the same engine family as the 5.4 and the v10. I also own an RV with the V10 Ford (6 years) and had very few problems.
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01-19-2017, 07:35 AM
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v-10 would be my choice. there is no substitute for displacement.
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01-19-2017, 07:56 AM
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Even with the 5.4 V8 the coach will be fine. A V10 would have been nice. The coach will take you anywhere in North America on improved roads. Take a fire or logging trail to get to "the spot" and you're on your own.
The chassis max weight on the tires is 12,500 lbs. and you'll have another 5000 lbs. available for towing. As long as you stay within the chassis weight limits and drive as if you Mother In Law is sitting behind you with a sharp stick pointed at the back of you neck ready to poke you anytime she doesn't feel comfortable you'll be fine.
If you really want to have some fun find a wrecked Shelby GT500 Mustang and swap the heads and supercharger (if it will fit).
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01-19-2017, 08:56 AM
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Thanks!
I looked at the spec sheet, and it has the E350 5.4L V8
We won't be towing anything, although it's rated for 5000lbs.
My husband has always had Ford trucks, from a Ford Bronco back in the 80's (Ha Ha we took the back seat out and camped in the back of that a few times!) then a Ford Ranger and now has an F150.
So he's happy it has the Ford motor. Sounds like it will be fine for us if we're not towing anything.
Thank you for all the replies!
Donna
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01-19-2017, 11:13 AM
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We have a 2016 26Ft Itasca Spirit 25B with a 5.4L V8 and drove it from Alaska to Georgia this fall. The Alaska Hwy. crosses the Northern Rockies 3 times. We had no problem in the mountains maintaining a decent speed. We were maxed out on our GVW but did not haul a toad. It's helpful to use tow haul mode up the steeper grades and also for engine braking on the way down.
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01-21-2017, 07:47 AM
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Tioga Montara
We have a 2011 on 2010 Ford chassis . We tow a car on trailer and have gone from Florida to New York . We mapped out the flattest route and it did fine. just go slow. Our Montara is nice has features you don't get in other rv's the best is the water pump switch in the bathroom
We have the 5.4 engine also
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01-23-2017, 05:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gladu2
We have a 2016 26Ft Itasca Spirit 25B with a 5.4L V8 and drove it from Alaska to Georgia this fall. The Alaska Hwy. crosses the Northern Rockies 3 times. We had no problem in the mountains maintaining a decent speed. We were maxed out on our GVW but did not haul a toad. It's helpful to use tow haul mode up the steeper grades and also for engine braking on the way down.
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Thanks for responding!
We picked it up this weekend, and I see it does have the tow/haul feature. I'll be using that in the mountains for sure!
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01-23-2017, 06:16 AM
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It does its basically an "overdrive off button" on the gear selector (steering column)
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01-23-2017, 06:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heavy metal
It does its basically an "overdrive off button" on the gear selector (steering column)
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The Tow/Haul feature is very different then " Overdrive Off ". Overdrive Off was a pre 2004 Ford transmission function.
Read an owners manual to learn it's features.
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01-23-2017, 07:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
The Tow/Haul feature is very different then " Overdrive Off ". Overdrive Off was a pre 2004 Ford transmission function.
Read an owners manual to learn it's features.
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I agree. I had a 1999 Ford truck with the OD on/off and currently have a 2010 with tow/haul. The tow/haul is very different in that it changes shift points and will still go into OD at highway speeds. In addition it has engine braking in both cruise control and tow/haul.
I'm sure yours is equipped with a 5.4 liter V8. It has 310 hp which is the same as the second generation 2 valve per cylinder V10 used in the class A motorhomes (2000 to 2004 chassis).
I regularly tow a trailer with loads up to 8,000 lbs. The trailer itself weighs 2,100 lbs. and is capable of a total weight of 10,000 lbs. The truck has a towing limit of 9,200 lbs. so I never load the trailer to the max. The truck pulls it fine, but it gets thirsty when it tows 6,000 lbs. or more. Normal mileage with the truck alone is 17-19 mpg on the highway. When towing the trailer it drops to 15 mpg.
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01-23-2017, 07:49 AM
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I did say "basically" i know about the different shift points and other features as mentionned... i wanted to keep the answer simple as it seemed obvious to me the OP has a big learning curve ahead. (no offence)
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