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Old 07-18-2012, 08:35 PM   #1
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Adding a power chip

We are the proud owners of a 2004 Ford E450 chassis Jayco Granite Ridge Class C 31' with the V10, and are concidering a performance chip, and possibly a cold air intake system. Is this a good idea, and money well spent or not. Thanks any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:47 PM   #2
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If you're going to chip the engine, you may need to chip the tranny too. Check with a performance house to see if you need to chip both. I found out the hard way to the tune of a $1400.00 tranny bill. This was on a trk.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:58 PM   #3
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Thanks for the heads up. good to know!
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:18 PM   #4
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Having had two Banks kits I'd recommend them. More expensive? Yes, but you get a dyno tuned kit that makes the most of your engine without overstressing it. All the parts needed are included so no running around for parts. Also get the TransCommand.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:22 PM   #5
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I would contact Mike at 5 Star Tune. He's very good with V10s and the Ford tranny. No chips, just a re-program of the ECM.
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For the Ford V10, either Brazels or 5star do good stuff. The samed chip addresses tranny issues as well. There is a lot of power to be had, particularly on the 2 valve V10's. The chips also address many issues with the transmissions downshifting too soon, dropping out of overdrive at the site of a hill, and generally letting the engine rev higher than is comfortable.

I put a brazels ultrapower tuner on a 99 V10 in a class A, the difference was startling!
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:13 PM   #7
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I did the 5Star Tune on my 2008 E450 V10 and gained 5 to 8 mph on hills towing a Jeep Wrangler. Before the 5Star Tune it was a struggle to climb at 50 mph without the transmission down shifting and buzzing the engine over 4000 rpm, now it will pull the same hills at 55-58mph without down shifting and buzzing the engine so high. Wish I had done the tune sooner.
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"Chips" are old school. They provide one set of parameters and are not adjustable. "Tuners" are the current technology. They can be adjusted, most times "on the fly", to take advantage of or compensate for changing conditions or your needs.

In my experience, adding a tuner provides the optimum performance increases when combined with well designed intake and exhaust modifications.

Again, it's just my opinion, but installing coordinated "packages", intake, exhaust and tuner, is the safest way to go... that way, you don't have incompatible "add-ons" fighting each other.
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Old 08-03-2012, 12:46 PM   #9
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Are you guys seeing any fuel efficiency increases with the E450 V10 mods?
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I can say I got a bit better with the 5 Star on my F53 V10. I don't equate it to changes in A/F ratio or timing, but to the lesser downshifting on grades.
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:29 PM   #11
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On a gas engine, you will not get a big gain. Some will require you to run premium fuel.

A Banks kit is not cheap, but it will help. You want a system, chip and exhaust system, that are tuned for mid range torque because that is what your motorhome needs.

My feelings on the tuning for the motorhome is it is not really worth the while unless you plan to keep the motorhome for a few more years and put some miles on nit.

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