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10-14-2014, 07:40 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chesterville, Ohio, USA
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Another bunk rebuild.
Hello all!
I just purchased a 97 Tioga Montara (24ft). It has leaked over the bunk area and has significant rot. I knew this when I bought it and the price was reflected in the work that needed to be done. Destruction has just started, but I have been doing a fair amount of research on how to go about the rebuild.
I have not started peeling away any fiberglass yet, just removing the rotten crap from the inside. I am planning on stripping it bare and doing a complete rebuild. I'm not planning on replacing any of the windows in the bunk area.
Questions:
The bunk floor is a wood frame work with the insulation (Styrofoam) sandwiched between 2 thin layers of plywood. Should I replace it with the same type of "sandwich", or can I just use a sheet of 3/4" plywood? I'm a rather large fella (270lbs) and want it to be as strong as possible.
The front window is definitely going away. Is there any reason to keep the side windows? Does anybody use them?
Any suggestions at all are welcome!
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10-15-2014, 04:11 PM
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Community Administrator
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Marquette, Michigan "Da UP" & Lehigh Acres Florida
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Good luck with your project and don't forget pictures.
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06 Pace Arrow 38L Workhorse W24
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10-16-2014, 04:35 AM
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Senior Member
Vintage RV Owners Club Solo Rvers Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 161
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Shawn,
Welcome!
My over cab bunk was redone before I bought my C. The front window was removed but the side windows were reinstalled. I'm happy with that situation. A little natural light up there is helpful.
Since I sleep in the overhead bunk the cross ventilation is great. If you always have hookups for air conditioning that's not an issue. I also leave those windows open in parking lots if no rain is expected. They're too high and too small for a casual thief to use but help the roof vents keep things cool.
Unless there's a really good reason, I'd put the floor back together the way it was originally built.
Good Luck,
mangy dog
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10-16-2014, 04:07 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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Take lots of pictures so you can get it back together
(don't ask....)
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11-11-2014, 05:52 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chesterville, Ohio, USA
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Destruction begins step 1
Here it is before starting. 1997 / 60,000 miles / $2700
Bunk corners before:
Bunk corners after:
Continued...
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11-11-2014, 05:56 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chesterville, Ohio, USA
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Destruction stage 2:
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11-11-2014, 06:01 PM
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Community Administrator
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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It's great watching other people work.
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06 Pace Arrow 38L Workhorse W24
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11-11-2014, 06:06 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chesterville, Ohio, USA
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Steel framework is significantly rusted, but feels solid:
Steel cleaned up (bad news):
The current plan is to weld up an internal framework with 1" square tubing to fit just inside the perimeter of the existing rusted steel frame. The new one will have a vertical piece at the back connecting the top and bottom pieces.
It should be where the red lines are:
I am going to "over build" the hell out of this. I still haven't decided if I am going to wrap it in "filon", or just fiberglass it myself. I have done a fair amount of fiberglass work on boats in the past, and if I glass it myself, there shouldn't be any seams to worry about.
Updates to come as I keep working on it.
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11-11-2014, 06:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Being that rust breeds rust, I would be more inclined to remove that old framing. But since you are keeping it, you might fill the inside with expanding foam which might help a little with strength.
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11-11-2014, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member
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The wind & rain that front window catches going down the highway is why it becomes such a problem. And normally severe damage before knowing it had leaked.
JMO, but I would want those side windows just for fresh air if I were sleeping up there.
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11-11-2014, 07:13 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chesterville, Ohio, USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HuntingHawk
The wind & rain that front window catches going down the highway is why it becomes such a problem. And normally severe damage before knowing it had leaked.
JMO, but I would want those side windows just for fresh air if I were sleeping up there.
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I do plan on putting both side windows back in. I can imagine it getting pretty stuffy up there in the summer without any air movement.
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11-11-2014, 07:25 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2014
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I would be concerned about rust in other places on the house frame and chassis also.
Great picture documentation of an interesting project. Much more than I would ever attempt.
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2006 Allegro Bay 37DB
2012 Toyota Yaris
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11-11-2014, 09:34 PM
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Community Administrator
Fleetwood Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
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Since your familiar with fiber glass how about cutting out a plywood frame, glue two sheets of 3/4" marine grade together for the frame work then covering it with a single sheet of fiber glass and resin instead of steel then proceed with the shell.
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06 Pace Arrow 38L Workhorse W24
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11-12-2014, 07:01 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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Location: Dayton, OH
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I have heard of problems with filling metal tubing with foam as the foam attracts and holds moisture. Best to weld in new steel. Better yet aluminum. YMMV
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