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Old 04-14-2018, 06:42 PM   #57
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Have driven a class B van conversion. Small, nimble, but no storage, and no dry bath. Great for touring. Not so much for destination camping. Economical on all things fuel, insurance, and maintenance, and they park anywhere.
Then tried a class A gasser. Lots of room and storage, towing capacity, and the full bath. Negatives were lousy fuel economy, terrible ride, the doghouse, the V10 engine noise, and the lack of maneuverability and choices of where to park/stay. The roominess was nice, once you stopped and parked it. We felt we had to tow, because some places were inaccessible to it.
We looked at a Super C and it just seemed too much like a class A with a truck cab. I've heard them called "diesel pullers", DPs with the engine up front. Size-wise, they're almost the same length as many class A coaches. Too big and too much like a class A coach in size and price for us, after looking over one or two of them. I think the average length is over 30' and the average length of a class A is probably around the same over 30'. For those of you that chose them, I'm sure you're enjoying your choice, after downsizing from your class A coaches, but they just weren't for us.
We went with a 26' Sprinter based class C "diesel puller" instead. Shorter length and height, and narrower than a class A, but with many full sized amenities, except the external storage volume. Better fuel economy 16MPG @ 65MPH than the gas versions (incrementally better than that if you lighten up on the pedal), good quiet hill climbing power, adequate towing capability, and it drives more like the class B van than the class A bus in terms of maneuverability and parking/stopping choices, as it's only 6' longer. We can tow or not. Depends on whether we're touring, or destination traveling.
Having owned/driven all 3 types I would say "So far, so good". YMMV.
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Old 04-14-2018, 07:21 PM   #58
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We started with a 24' class c then went up to a 37' DP and now have a 33' super C. It is a ton more relaxing to drive then the DP. I never did enjoy how the DP handled on the air ride suspension. Our super C does have more engine noise but I'm working on converting to electric engine fans to take care of some of that. The ride is more like a truck but not harsh. I can drive it all day long without feeling beat when we get to camp. This is just my opinion tho. I'd suggest spending some money on renting and really find what you want before buying. If you don't get what you want it will cost you dearly. RV's lose value faster then anything I've ever owned so trading in after a year or 2 will hurt the bank.
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Old 04-14-2018, 08:04 PM   #59
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I just love this forum. I just found out that a diesel motorhome cost less for maintenance than a gas model. I would have never thought that to be possible. WOW.
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I just love this forum. I just found out that a diesel motorhome cost less for maintenance than a gas model. I would have never thought that to be possible. WOW.
Read on. Wait until you see some of the repair bills diesel owners pay when they have a serious problem with their engines. Injectors, pumps, EGR systems, turbos etc. Then you will say WOW!
I will stick to my gas powered MH which gets an oil change once a year with an $8.00 filter and 6.5 qts. of synthetic oil @ $2.99 per qt.
Last year I did spring for a set of spark plugs and new plug wires. $100. Woe is me. LOL
A slight difference in mileage being better with a diesel is pretty well offset by the increased price of diesel fuel and the addition of D.E.F. fluid required in the newer models.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:29 AM   #61
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One must stand strong for their personal choices, regardless. If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. Diesel is the standard for heavy hauling...it's all about torque and maintaining steady speeds at lower RPM on greater inclines. If you study torque curves you'll find a diesel holds a near flat torque curve from around 17-1800 RPM upwards to 26-2800 RPM. Gas engines have a very defined peak and you must stay just below that number to maintain maximum power output to the ground. This is why they so quickly slow down and downshift the transmission on inclines. There is no cost advantage to a diesel...fuel is 50 cents higher a gallon and the initial investment is $15K more minimum. Those 35MPH, 4,000RPM at 2.7MPG up the 65MPH Speed Limit mountain passes are not fun. I started shopping for a large Class C (35 feet plus) three years ago and did not purchase until someone finally got smart and built one on an industry proven commercial diesel chassis. If we really cared what an RV cost or the cost to maintain one...we would never own one. To me it's all about performance and convenience. We'll be waiting for you at the top of the mountain with a fresh pot of coffee.
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