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Old 09-09-2016, 08:16 PM   #29
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We have a 2013 Thor Citation 24SR and love the floor plan! I am a big guy - 6'5" and over 300 lbs. Getting around in this is easy with back slide for walk around queen. "L" shaped door for bathroom that gives you the hallway as extra bathroom space!
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TJFogelberg....I am a person that enjoys cooking, so that lack of counter space was a concern for me also. But, we won't be living in it full time, so I can make it work. Had one with pretty much identical counter space for 4 years a while back. I found that I had to be 'really organized' and 'creative' when it came to meal preparation. I have one of the large square cutting boards that covers the entire stove top, which increases the usable space a little. Bringing meals prepared earlier at home helps a great deal. I'm not the biggest fan of frozen entrees....but I find an occasional one to pop in the oven or microwave. I'm the only coffee drinker in the house, and use the coffee singles, so no coffee countertop coffee pot required. The toaster can be plugged in at the table in the morning, if need be. You just learn ways to adapt and make it work. Motorhome life can bring some challenges, for sure.
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:38 AM   #31
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Any signs that Forest River has had a negative effect on Dynamax?
good point. i wouldn't go near a dynamx after the FR acquistion date. i feel sure they will push their cost cutting, quality destroying controls onto dynamax.its a shame to see the biggies that all turn out junk absorbing some of the few decent manufacturers left.
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Old 09-20-2016, 11:32 PM   #32
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I also bought a 2016 22r love it.
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Old 09-21-2016, 07:54 AM   #33
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TJFogelberg....I am a person that enjoys cooking, so that lack of counter space was a concern for me also. But, we won't be living in it full time, so I can make it work. Had one with pretty much identical counter space for 4 years a while back. I found that I had to be 'really organized' and 'creative' when it came to meal preparation. I have one of the large square cutting boards that covers the entire stove top, which increases the usable space a little. Bringing meals prepared earlier at home helps a great deal. I'm not the biggest fan of frozen entrees....but I find an occasional one to pop in the oven or microwave. I'm the only coffee drinker in the house, and use the coffee singles, so no coffee countertop coffee pot required. The toaster can be plugged in at the table in the morning, if need be. You just learn ways to adapt and make it work. Motorhome life can bring some challenges, for sure.
For TJ....As gonetothedog said, we also use a large stovetop cutting board to increase the "counter" space. we use the left side of sink and have a cover over the right sink which adds additional prep space. We keep a coffee maker on the dinette table. Longest time period we've spent is 5 weeks consecutively. We make the 25B work with 2 adults & 2 medium sized dogs. We liked it so well that we replaced a 2015 25B with 2016.
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I also bought a 2016 22r love it.
Ditto here!

My only "gripe" is the lack of counter space. But I bought a stove top cutting board and also a sink cover, those are working very well for me and solves the problem.
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Addition to our 2016 View for counter space
Slips in and out easy and rides under the overhead bunk. Made out of starboard and a couple stiffening braces underneath. Got lucky that the counter top and the rung on the ladder was perfectly level.
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We opted for a Isata 3 (made by Dynamax a Forest River company) on a sprinter chassis and love the full side slide out. Gives you a huge living area for a 25 foot coach.


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After a horrible time with a Siesta and Camping WORLD we traded it in for a Isata 3. Like a car trunk hood and doors, notice the storage door gaps. If they are not evenly spaced all around the door the build is either poorly engineered or sloppy built. good luck
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Old 09-22-2016, 08:55 AM   #37
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The high end California Class C is Lazy Daze Motorhome Dealer | Low Profile Motorhome | RV Manufacturer | Quality Motorhome

The September Motor Home magazine has a feature article on this RV.

The Iowa Born Free company has just recently been sold, but one of the founding family is still involved.

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Look at Born Free, a California made unit. Most impressive I've seen. You'll pay for the quality, though.

If at all possible, get a unit with a full one piece fiberglass front that goes all the way to the main box structure and a domed fiberglass roof. I know Winnebago is one that does this.

Sounds like you need a coach with a Ford V10 engine or the GM equivalent.
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The high end California Class C is Lazy Daze Motorhome Dealer | Low Profile Motorhome | RV Manufacturer | Quality Motorhome

The September Motor Home magazine has a feature article on this RV.

The Iowa Born Free company has just recently been sold, but one of the founding family is still involved.
Correct, Brandon Dodgen is still in the company. He is the product manager and the grandson of the founder. That poor family lost both the grandfather and the son in recent years. Born Free was sold to a private equity investment firm from Des Moines but the good news to that story is that it is a firm that was specifically looking to get into the recreational vehicle market. They weren't just looking to pick up any deal from any industry.

The company has changed somewhat since we purchased our coach from them in 2011. The product has gone markedly upscale. There have been no signs that they are looking to get into mass production and lower the cost and grab a bigger market share or any of that. I guess the closest comparison I could make is Coach House Platinum or Dynamax but many of their new units are 6 figures that start with a 2.
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Old 09-22-2016, 07:18 PM   #39
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Another vote for the Winnebago 25B. We've had our a little over a month and love it. We have the E450 with the V10 which we wanted in order to pull our Jeep Wrangler. We love the dinette and sofa and no slide. We have been pleasantly surprised by the build quality (so far) with absolutely no problems. Huge storage area in the back. We solved the counter space issue by making 2 wood sink covers and buying a made to match stove cover. Only concern is that the A/C struggles a little with the Texas summer heat but this seems to be common with Class C and the single A/C. We were about ready to buy a View but the huge price difference convinced us that the 25B would do everything we needed. We did buy with a few upgrades. 2nd tv, dual pane Windows, full oven plus some others. I'd definitely recommend the dual pane Windows.
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Vtwin996......Glad to see another happy Winnebago Spirit 25b owner. Ours also appears to have good build quality, and has been pretty much trouble free, so far. We have no plan to return to the dealer for anything. And how many new RV owners do you hear say that?
I think a lot of that comes from this being such a 'simple' motorhome, with fewer things to go wrong. No electric step to fail, no slideout to fail, etc.
It is easy to drive. Small, yet quite comfortable for two.
That was what motivated our final decision. More fun.....less stress. Love it!
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I would have gone with a Winnebago 25b, except it would be about 2-3 feet too long for my parking space for me to still park my car there in front of it. The 22R (actually 23 feet) is just right.
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Yes, we would have preferred the shorter length of the 22R but liked the separate dinette and sofa in the 25B. Coming from tent camping the Minnie Winnie is the ultimate in Luxury when you are the wrong side of 65!
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