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Old 10-15-2019, 08:06 PM   #1
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Class A vs Super C

We currently have a 39 foot class A diesel pusher. We are considering downsizing to a 35 foot or under Super C. The one we like the best so far is the Nexus Ghost 34DS.

1. Will a Super C of that length be easier to drive and maneuver?
2. We will lose a lot of storage space and living space in a Super C. Has this been an issue for any of you and do you have regrets?
3. How does the handling of a Super C compare with a diesel pusher?
4. What are the pros and cons of Super C's in general? What should be looking at?
5. What other brands have super C's at 35 foot or less that we should be looking at? One thing is we do not want any black on the coach so it would either need to have a lighter color scheme or allow us to get one with custom colors.
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:30 PM   #2
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From a friends perspective..

This is not our personal experience with a Class C, but from 2 friends with them that we travel with on a regular basis. Hubs and I have a Class A DP and love it, our preference is the more room, the better!
A few comments our friends have brought up is the limited visibility when camped looking out the window and the fact that you lose seating because you can't use the cab seats for company like in a Class A. Storage has been an issue for them and they typically have to use a storage basket on hitch for more gear, coolers etc.
The ease of getting up and down and to the back of rv while traveling and last but not least, you can't switch drivers while cruising down the road!
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Old 10-15-2019, 08:53 PM   #3
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I like the cab much better in the SuperC. You have air bags, doors, power windows, and a front engine which runs cooler. Over the cab you have a nice big bed or storage area. You also do not get sun in your face nearly as much with the Super C. The super C is much much easier to work on if needed.

They also look great.
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A few comments our friends have brought up is the limited visibility when camped looking out the window and the fact that you lose seating because you can't use the cab seats for company like in a Class A.

The ease of getting up and down and to the back of rv while traveling and last but not least, you can't switch drivers while cruising down the road!
The above is true of a regular class C but not a Super C. On most Super C's the front seats do swivel to the rear. It's very easy to get up from the front seat to go into the back of a Super C...the floor is flat (or very nearly so) on all Super C's so there's no climbing up necessary. I'm not sure that I'd advise switching drivers while driving down the road...sounds like a great way to end up dead.
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5. What other brands have super C's at 35 foot or less that we should be looking at? One thing is we do not want any black on the coach so it would either need to have a lighter color scheme or allow us to get one with custom colors.
You should also look at the Renegade Valencia. They have a new 35' floorplan for MY2020 and none of their paint schemes have black in them. There's a thread about it on this forum under Truck Conversions. Price is not much more than a Nexus Ghost and Renegade has significantly larger tanks and a better reputation.

I'm also looking hard at both of these options but I don't have any ownership experience with either company's products.
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Old 10-16-2019, 02:48 PM   #6
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Super "C" ?

If you are looking at a super "C", be sure and drive it a LONG way at highway speeds. None of this "around the block stuff" that the salesman suggests.
What you are looking for is the amount of WIND NOISE they generate.

My '07 Jayco 33ss was so noisy, that you could not carry on a conversation above 55 MPH.
I applied "Killmat" with 2 layers in the doors and 1 layer on the cab floor and firewall.
Now it is just barely tolerable at 60 MPH, which is usually where we cruise.

As a result, we are looking for a DP class "A" !!!!!


And our front seats don't swivel, = strike 2 !

Wanna trade ?

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We have a 34' Ghost and have put about 15,000 miles on it in last two years. Also had a 36' Meridian and 3 Ford Class C's.
Engine noise and wind noise in the Ghost is higher but not objectionable.
Storage not an issue, we use cab over for bulky items.
Handling and ride much better than Class C units, about equal to Class A.
Service and maintenance on Ghost much easier and lower cost than Class A.
Driver fatigue less with Ghost and Class A compared to Ford Class C.
I feel safer in Ghost than in Class A.
Turning radius of Freightliner chassis better than Class C or Ghost.
DuraStar/Cummings is a real mountain climber.

Hope this helps.
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You should also look at the Renegade Valencia. They have a new 35' floorplan for MY2020 and none of their paint schemes have black in them. There's a thread about it on this forum under Truck Conversions. Price is not much more than a Nexus Ghost and Renegade has significantly larger tanks and a better reputation.

I'm also looking hard at both of these options but I don't have any ownership experience with either company's products.
Thanks for the recommendation. I looked but it will not work for us. The Verona has short beds - short queen, or short queen (75 inches long). I need one that has a residential sized mattress. Husband is 6'4".
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We have a 2019 Renegade Verona 36' VSB ours has a king size bed, I am 6'5" and it was a must. We have put over 5000 miles on it and love it. The cab noise is minimal the craftsmanship is excellent, everything fits. The rig is quiet.
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Does anyone one this thread have a Regenade XL 43-45'er?
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I've got a Classic. It's about 44'.
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Before we purchased our first super C, a Dynamax Grandsport 380, we rented several different types. Although rental units are not as nice as personal coaches you still get a feel for how they drive and features. We went with the Super C because it is based on a heavy duty truck. We like the ease of maintenance, any heavy truck mechanic will service them, the way they drive and of course the distinctive looks. I will admit, they do have negatives but for us they work. We owned the Dynamax for 5 years before we moved up to a super C based on a class 8 truck. Since we commonly travel with our kids and grandkids, total of 7, plus 2 dogs and a bird, the new rig works better. We are not full timers but do make 2 or 3 cross country trips a year. In between the long trips we use it for weekend getaways. It is garage kept and fully stocked so we can take off with a moments notice. We purchased both of our's used, they were one owner, low mileage, well maintained and garage kept. If I was in the market for new, Renegade, Haulmark and Showhauler would be on my list.
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We just went from a Class A to a Entegra Accolade 37TS Super C. The Accolade is a smoother ride than our A and even though it is only 360 hp it will get down the road. We did loose some storage 235 CF down to 165 CF (exterior) but we needed to unload a bunch of crap anyway. More storage space = more junk. Cab seats don't swivel but we never used that feature in our Class A so no impact for us.
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Thanks for the post... I agree, we carry more crap that we never use so the less room for storage does not really bother me. Glad to here about the ride.
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