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05-31-2017, 12:43 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
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I did not even think of the gas savings. Our toad gets over 2x the MPH that the MH does. So it save us big time.
momdoc
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05-31-2017, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyDi
You have completely set up camp, water line is attached, sewer hookups have been made and electricity has been attached, awnings are out... Now you have to make a trip to grocer, sightseeing, a run to the pharmacy. Anything at all, now you have to put everything away to travel do what you need to. Then come back and set it all up again?
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WHY???
We have been RVing for 14 years, the first 3 without a towed. We drove the RV everywhere.
In that 14 years I have NEVER "hooked up" to park water and have NEVER "hooked up" to park dump.
I fill the fresh water tank when it is empty and dump the tanks when they are full.
Even after we got a towed to drive all over the place, I still do the same. Hooking up to water and dump at every stop, especially for a night or two, still makes absolutely no sense (unless you LOVE that stinky slinky hose).
We pull in, plug in, put the top down, and go exploring! THAT is why we stopped there in the first place.
Tim
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05-31-2017, 03:48 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SW Louisiana
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Tim, while I don't have the years of experience in our current motorhome (owned a couple of Class B's 15-25 years ago), this is exactly how we are, pull in plug in and go about our business unless we plan on staying over 48 hours. Of course we do have 80 gallons of fresh water tank capacity as well as a 40 gallon black and 40 gallon gray tank, now with a SeeLevel II monitor system so no more of the 1/3, 2/3, over full guessing . For those with small tanks I guess I could see the need to constantly hook up water and sewer. Also hydraulic leveling jacks do help speed the process.
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05-31-2017, 07:23 PM
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Pensacola
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With two different Class A motorhomes over 25+ years, almost all travel was with a toad. I now have the Thor Siesta, a 24' Class C. In almost 2 years, and 23,000 miles I have seldom used the toad and have not found it inconvenient. Average 15-16 mpg.
I do use the toad when I have to leave the RV at the dealer, (RV or Mercedes). I did rent a car on a trip to Niagara Falls. (border crossing)
The Siesta can be parked almost anywhere, (even parallel)- is certainly not cumbersome in traffic and I can unhook the hoses and power, leave cones marking my site, and head off in 5 to 10 minutes. ( I think it takes longer to walk the dogs)..
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06-01-2017, 01:43 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Where we park it!
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We only hook up the electric and water and hook up to dump when needed. But it still takes 20+ min to break camp between stowing gear, bringing the slide, making sure all is locked, jacks are up and such. Then it takes another 20-25 min to reset up the camp. Sorry but the toad makes like sooooooo much easier
momdoc
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06-02-2017, 08:07 AM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 349
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At a FHU site I connect everything once and pack up once no matter how long we stay.
Here in New England I couldnt image not having a toad, just too many height,weight and size restrictions on off-highway roadways. As has been said MPG is going to be almost twice as good in a Toad,which suits us as we dont hang around the campsite much . Prefer to be out sightseeing, or biking( a lot of the trail head parking lots arent big enough for a C or even a large B). Being able to park normally in any standard 8-9' by 18-20' parking space with out overhanging the curb(if there's no barrier there)or taking up 2 spaces in double spaced lots works for us.But that is just us.Everyone has their own preferences. Thing is just get out and enjoy the life.HAVE FUN
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06-02-2017, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Phoenix, Oregon
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IMHO, it depends on how much you will be staying in one place, the longer and more often the MH is parked in one place the greater the convenience of having a toad.
We have had 23' total length TC's for 40 years and 300k+ miles until two years ago when we got a 26' MH. For at least 20 of those years we were toadless, but during that time we would travel about the US ending up in WV for a couple of weeks with friends and family. While we were there we used one of their vehicles.
For the last 15-20 years we have pulled a toad because we still spend a month or so in the same place in WV, but the people who would let us use their vehicles are no longer with us.
On our 1.5 month AK trip we did not take a toad and did not miss it. The 23' TC was all we needed, but again, we did not stay more than a few days in one place. The first part of our AK trip was on the ferry, and paying by the foot without the toad was a bit less costly.
Again, I think it will depend on how you use the camper. Try it without a toad for a while to see how that works for you.
Steve
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06-02-2017, 04:24 PM
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Winnebago Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Jamestown, NM
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As others have said, it depends upon the size of the Class C.
Personally, I will camp at a place near enough to an attraction to either walk or take a cab or public transportation to. In the case of a national park, I will use their shuttle systems or sign up with a private tour company that will pick-up and drop-off customers at their (private) campground. I leave the RV at camp.
If I am at a place where I have to use the RV to sightsee, I won't put so much stuff out to make a hassle to pack up.
Mine is 23' and I will use it for city driving if my car is in the shop.
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06-02-2017, 11:28 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,143
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Class C in town traffic
We have flexibility to do both. Our Winnebago view is 24 feet and on a narrower Sprinter chassis. We had a 24 foot on a Chevy 3500 chassis at one point and the width does make a difference in urban areas. What we like about our View is that we also use it for day trips and not just camping. Want to go to the lake for the day? Bring the View. Concert series in the park with stinky port-o-potties? Bring the View. Winery and orchard tour with friends near Hood River in the Columbia Gorge? Bring the View. Solar Eclipse viewing this summer? Bring the View. Our summer multi-thousand mile trips we still only take the View in order to maximize MPG and minimize wear and tear on the transmission. We will be doing this for a trip to Canada this summer.
Where we bring the toad (2003 Chevy Tracker, RoadMaster tow bar setup, braking system) is when we want to camp near a specific area and do lots of windy road, drive on the beach, and high urban area experiences where we know we want a small rig for exploring to tight spaces, leaving the RV as a base camp. One item I've not been happy with in 4 down towing is the over aggressive supplemental braking system we use, even on the most mild setting. (RoadMaster EvenBrake). It's been hard on the brakes of our Tracker.
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