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Old 09-04-2014, 10:44 PM   #15
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Old 09-07-2014, 08:14 PM   #16
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Four winds Chateau 31F.Very happy with it.Bought it used 2008 13000 miles on it.no problems to speak of.
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Old 09-08-2014, 07:45 PM   #17
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I bought a new Jayco Grayhawk in March. It is OK. Down points I have incounterd. Demand waterheater leaves much to be desired . Holding tanks are exposed completely. Thay have heating elements but all lines are exposed without heat or insulation. No cold weather use. Bedroom tv didnt work and was replaced by Jayco. Personaly I think the Forest River is a better unit.
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Old 09-20-2014, 12:23 PM   #18
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We also own a 2014 Thor Four Winds 31F and love that floor plan with the side hall. This one came loaded with about every option and we got a great deal. Bought in June and have put about 5000 miles on it this summer. The rear inner tire valve extensions didn't work, but Thor is reimbursing us for the repair. Have averaged about 9.25 mpg which is far better than anticipated. We are definitely very happy with it..
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We have a 2013 Jayco 31 DS . As far as I am conserned I made a mistake purchesing it. It is a nice looking unit in my opinion but the isues are the holding are completely exposed. Thay are equiped with heaters but all plumbing is also exposed with no heat or insulation. Also it has a demand water heater which I find imposable to controle the water temprature. Should have stayed with Forest River
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We have a 2013 Jayco 31 DS . As far as I am conserned I made a mistake purchesing it. It is a nice looking unit in my opinion but the isues are the holding are completely exposed. Thay are equiped with heaters but all plumbing is also exposed with no heat or insulation. Also it has a demand water heater which I find imposable to controle the water temprature. Should have stayed with Forest River
I would guess that most RVs in this price range have exposed tanks and plumbing, except for the Forest River. This is one of those issues that is personal preference. I don't use mine in cold weather, so the exposed plumbing isn't a bother to me. My problem with Forest River is that every floor plan we looked at had drawers that were blocked when the slideout is in. My driveway is so sloped that I can't get to level, so loading an RV like that would be difficult in my driveway.

Personal preference and needs have a lot to do with which brand you go with.
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I would guess that most RVs in this price range have exposed tanks and plumbing, except for the Forest River. This is one of those issues that is personal preference. I don't use mine in cold weather, so the exposed plumbing isn't a bother to me. My problem with Forest River is that every floor plan we looked at had drawers that were blocked when the slideout is in. My driveway is so sloped that I can't get to level, so loading an RV like that would be difficult in my driveway.

Personal preference and needs have a lot to do with which brand you go with.
The Coachmen we owned and the Fourwinds we have now have all the plumbing inside the heat envelope except the holding tanks and outside shower. From what I have seen that is fairly common. It is not hard to set them up for cold weather but dumping could be an issue. OTOH the new one has tank heaters so I can warm things up when camped and dump while warm. Small amounts of waste in either tank do not seem to be a problem but I would not overwinter with a lot in any tank.
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2014 thor chateau 24c class c

We had nothing but problems with this new THOR CLASS C. The RV DEALER REGISTER CHEV, BROOKSVILLE ,FL. AND THOR BOTH LIED TO US ,WE WILL NEVER OWN A THOR PRODUCT AGAIN,THIS WAS OUR 23RD RV SINCE 1962, AND NONE OF THEM HAD THE QUALITY ISSUES WE GOT WITH THIS ONE. WHEN IT WAS TWO DAYS OLD, 700 MILES THE TRANSMISSION WENT OUT, THE ONLY SLIDE LEAKED 4 PLACES, PASS SIDE SEAT BELT DEFECTIVE, WOULDN'T RETRACT, INTERIOR DOOR FELL OFF,OUTSIDE STORAGE COMPARTMENT LOST ALL THE SCREWS HANGING DOWN WHEN YOU OPENED THE DOOR.THE LIST GOES ON AND ON,WE DIDN'T TRUST THIS UNIT,THE DEALER OR THOR SO WE TRADED IT IN ON A WINNEBAGO,
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Yes, they should change the name to THOR UPYOURS.
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Old 09-24-2014, 02:53 AM   #24
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Yes, they should change the name to THOR UPYOURS.
I am fairly new to this forum after buying our first motorhome, a Thor FourWinds. I am seriously thinking about quitting because all I read is people trashing what I am so proud of. I thought this was a support group with positive comments where I could learn from others' experience in the RV world. We sacrificed so much to buy this motorhome and everyone makes me feel like it's a piece. I know everyone has their own experience but you should respect the fact that there are folks that take pride in their Thor.
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I bought a new Jayco in 1997. A couple of years after I bought it, the warranty was out. The slide didn't want to retract (we were in Memphis, Tn),I finally got it to come in but it was "crooked". I took it to the dealer for repair. They took some pictures of it and sent them to Jayco. The slide was 2" out of square. Jayco's reply was "that's not the customers fault, fix it". They did, cost me .69 for a tube of caulk.
That's real customer service to me. I like the Jayco quality and service.
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I am fairly new to this forum after buying our first motorhome, a Thor FourWinds. I am seriously thinking about quitting because all I read is people trashing what I am so proud of. I thought this was a support group with positive comments where I could learn from others' experience in the RV world. We sacrificed so much to buy this motorhome and everyone makes me feel like it's a piece. I know everyone has their own experience but you should respect the fact that there are folks that take pride in their Thor.
I really wouldn't be too concerned with what others say about the quality of your motor home. As long as you are happy with it, that's all that counts. I bought a new Four Winds and kept that MH for almost 10 years. It was also my daily driver for those 10 years. Aside from an electrolysis issue in the aluminum front cab over wall and roof, which Four Winds fixed under warranty, that MH was issue free for the whole time I owned it. As to the person you quoted (dezi), he started this thread asking for opinions on Thor vs Jayco about 3 weeks ago. It looks like since he started this thread, he has bought some type of Four Winds and now has an issue or issues, and has decided to bash Four Winds, without giving (as far as I can see) a reason for his bashing. Again, as long as you are happy with yours, it's all good.
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First, I would like to say I am glad you are thrilled to own your Thor Four Winds. I am glad you have had no problems. You should consider yourself lucky. The reason I started this post is because we were considering trading our unit in on a Jayco and I wanted to make an informed decision. I have spent so much time working on my unit on my own, It has been back to Thor twice for warranty work and a lot of work done at MotorHome Specialist in Alvarado, TX in 2013. When we bought the unit, we stayed overnight at the dealer to find issues so they could fix them before we left. We had a tv that did not work, flooring that needed fixing, cabinet doors that wouldnt close right, the circuit to the inverter was blown, wall decor was peeling off, ceiling in cab was falling down. Motorhome specialists was awesome and did all we asked. But we did not find it all. We were an hour and a half into our 2 day journey home. We stopped to get something to eat and when we got out we smelled burning rubber. A mudflap had rubbed through and was not attached properly. I pulled it off and threw it in the basement until we got home. I called MHSRV and they had a new one on the way to me. Of course, I now had to fix it. Every time we went over a bump it sounded like our toilet was going to fall through the floor. Once home, I checked underneath and found a random bracket stuck on top of a tank and it was hanging down banging against the tank making the loud metal on metal noise. Thor could not explain to me why the bracket was there or where it was suppose to be. Our bathroom door flew open every 2 minutes. It was hung crooked. Our valve extenders that I pd for dont work. Thor said on both trips to the factory for warranty that they would send me new ones. I have yet to get them from Thor, instead MHSRV sent me new ones. Now I have to pay to have them installed properly. Our heating pads on the gray and black tanks keep falling off. I spent the first 2 weeks of the unit being home filling holes underneath and on the inside. I caulked places that were left half done. The wheel wells wer butchered and then foamed. Wood and metal was showing. A great place for mice! The outside wall of the unit on the drivers side looks all wavy and like it was done poorly. Underneath on the drivers side back corner it looks like our unit was in an accident but they tell me no. I had to have the unit alligned because it was not done. On our first journey out with the unit, I had to stop 3 more times to fix the other 3 mudflaps while laying on the ground in random rest stops. This is not all my issues but it is a good lot of them. The good news is that after many, many, many hours and a lot of hard work the unit is fixed above and beyond. The Ford part of my unit is perfect. So if I do decide to trade it in, someone will get a unit that will not need much if anything done to it. But I too spent my hard earned money on this unit and just dont feel Thor takes our issues seriously. On the first trip to Thor, we had a Quality guy talk to us for about 45 minutes and tell us they need to work on the quality but also said it probably wont happen for a while. How and why is this ok? And for those of you that feel you need to bash me (Mich F) for stating my opinion and asking for some information so my next decision is the best decision for me, maybe you should have just chose to move on when you read my initial question. I have worked on cars for 40 years and can honestly say I have not seen such shoddy workmanship on something that cost so much money. Are they all the same, I dont know, I was trying to find out but since there is such an issue with my comments, I guess I will never know. Do I feel like I got a less than perfect unit, you bet I do. Do I thing it was put together by people who are worked to the bone and cant possibly care because it they did it would take to long, you bet I do. Do I think Thor cares about my issues, hell no, I dont! Thor needs to change their ways and all of those buying need to make this happen!
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First, I would like to say I am glad you are thrilled to own your Thor Four Winds. I am glad you have had no problems. You should consider yourself lucky. The reason I started this post is because we were considering trading our unit in on a Jayco and I wanted to make an informed decision. I have spent so much time working on my unit on my own, It has been back to Thor twice for warranty work and a lot of work done at MotorHome Specialist in Alvarado, TX in 2013. When we bought the unit, we stayed overnight at the dealer to find issues so they could fix them before we left. We had a tv that did not work, flooring that needed fixing, cabinet doors that wouldnt close right, the circuit to the inverter was blown, wall decor was peeling off, ceiling in cab was falling down. Motorhome specialists was awesome and did all we asked. But we did not find it all. We were an hour and a half into our 2 day journey home. We stopped to get something to eat and when we got out we smelled burning rubber. A mudflap had rubbed through and was not attached properly. I pulled it off and threw it in the basement until we got home. I called MHSRV and they had a new one on the way to me. Of course, I now had to fix it. Every time we went over a bump it sounded like our toilet was going to fall through the floor. Once home, I checked underneath and found a random bracket stuck on top of a tank and it was hanging down banging against the tank making the loud metal on metal noise. Thor could not explain to me why the bracket was there or where it was suppose to be. Our bathroom door flew open every 2 minutes. It was hung crooked. Our valve extenders that I pd for dont work. Thor said on both trips to the factory for warranty that they would send me new ones. I have yet to get them from Thor, instead MHSRV sent me new ones. Now I have to pay to have them installed properly. Our heating pads on the gray and black tanks keep falling off. I spent the first 2 weeks of the unit being home filling holes underneath and on the inside. I caulked places that were left half done. The wheel wells wer butchered and then foamed. Wood and metal was showing. A great place for mice! The outside wall of the unit on the drivers side looks all wavy and like it was done poorly. Underneath on the drivers side back corner it looks like our unit was in an accident but they tell me no. I had to have the unit alligned because it was not done. On our first journey out with the unit, I had to stop 3 more times to fix the other 3 mudflaps while laying on the ground in random rest stops. This is not all my issues but it is a good lot of them. The good news is that after many, many, many hours and a lot of hard work the unit is fixed above and beyond. The Ford part of my unit is perfect. So if I do decide to trade it in, someone will get a unit that will not need much if anything done to it. But I too spent my hard earned money on this unit and just dont feel Thor takes our issues seriously. On the first trip to Thor, we had a Quality guy talk to us for about 45 minutes and tell us they need to work on the quality but also said it probably wont happen for a while. How and why is this ok? And for those of you that feel you need to bash me (Mich F) for stating my opinion and asking for some information so my next decision is the best decision for me, maybe you should have just chose to move on when you read my initial question. I have worked on cars for 40 years and can honestly say I have not seen such shoddy workmanship on something that cost so much money. Are they all the same, I dont know, I was trying to find out but since there is such an issue with my comments, I guess I will never know. Do I feel like I got a less than perfect unit, you bet I do. Do I thing it was put together by people who are worked to the bone and cant possibly care because it they did it would take to long, you bet I do. Do I think Thor cares about my issues, hell no, I dont! Thor needs to change their ways and all of those buying need to make this happen!
Do you feel better now ? How was I bashing you? I said that you were bashing Four Winds for reasons unknown. On 8/31 you're looking to compare the quality of Four Winds and Jayco, then on 9/24 you tell us with a laundry list of issues, that you bought a Four Winds last year, whatever.
Sorry you had so many problems, but it looks like janniemac hasn't had any issues. He is lucky, you were unlucky, welcome to the world of RVs.
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