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Old 08-13-2012, 11:53 AM   #1
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E-350 vs E-450 towing 11,000 lbs.....

Hi all,

First post here and have a few questions. I'm looking into purchasing a motor home to tow our 28' race car trailer and it weighs in at around 11,000 lbs.


We don't have $60,000+ to put into a toter home and are looking for options to have some living space while we are at the track. I've been looking at shorter(26' & less) class C's & I realize they only are rated to 5,000lbs towing. I've seen & read that the hitch can be upgrade to a 12,000 hitch, frame rails reinforced, and addition of a trailer toad helps out immensely.(all of which I will be doing)


I have found a few class C's(under $20,000) that will fit within my wants, but am wanting to know the difference between a e-450 and e-350?? I'm well versed in the Ford pickup world as I have a 2006 F-350 diesel that pulls our car trailer now. The F-450 in the truck has bigger brakes, bigger rear axle, and narrower rear frame(chassis cab) than my current F-350. I didn't know if any of that translates to the RV world or not???



Thanks all for help!
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I doubt if there is a Class c to tow 11,000#. Just plain not feasible.

A lot of the class A's can't tow this much weight.

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Maybe I'm missing something here, I'm looking at a 2008 24" Winnie Chalet with the 3v V-10 and torqshift transmission. Do these RV's weight that much as to where I couldn't tow 10,000 lbs and be beyond my GWVR?

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Hi all,

First post here and have a few questions. I'm looking into purchasing a motor home to tow our 28' race car trailer and it weighs in at around 11,000 lbs.


We don't have $60,000+ to put into a toter home and are looking for options to have some living space while we are at the track. I've been looking at shorter(26' & less) class C's & I realize they only are rated to 5,000lbs towing. I've seen & read that the hitch can be upgrade to a 12,000 hitch, frame rails reinforced, and addition of a trailer toad helps out immensely.(all of which I will be doing)


I have found a few class C's(under $20,000) that will fit within my wants, but am wanting to know the difference between a e-450 and e-350?? I'm well versed in the Ford pickup world as I have a 2006 F-350 diesel that pulls our car trailer now. The F-450 in the truck has bigger brakes, bigger rear axle, and narrower rear frame(chassis cab) than my current F-350. I didn't know if any of that translates to the RV world or not???



Thanks all for help!
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While your F350 pick up could probably do it, it is not also carrying the weight of an RV house. The E450 motorhome in it's best configuration is only rated at 5k. You could do all the upgrades you talk about and may even be able to get an additional 11k moving but I would not recommend it.
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What you can tow is easy to determine...

GCWR - loaded RV weight = max load you are rated to tow.

With a straight E-350 can, you may be able to tow that much, but you are hauling around a house on thee back of the van chassis.

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Thanks all for the reply's.

My F-350 diesel pulls the trailer just fine with plenty of power to spare. My main concern is the power with the V-10. I know it's no diesel but looks like that's what I'll be stuck with in the $25,000 and under used market.


With a trailer toad, upgraded hitch, and reinforced frame I not worried about the coach flexing, and when we ordered the trailer we opted for the brakes on each axle(2 total) so braking shouldn't be an issue either.

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I also forgot to mention that I miss quoted the weight. Trailer in it's current configuration weights 9,900lbs. We are switching classes next year to a lighter and faster car so that will drop an additional 1,000 lbs, therefore getting the haul down to 9,000lbs.


Is that still to much weight for a 3 valve v-10 and torqshift transmission????



I'm not trying to argue the fact that it can/can't just trying to get my facts before I make a purchase.


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With a motorhome body loaded on the chassis plus the trailer, I would not want to subject my V-10 to that kind of abuse.
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Most every Class C with the V-10 are linited to 5000# towing capacity. You may find someone who says they can beef it up to tow more but you just aren't legal. Wouldn't want to be involved in an accident and found to be towing more than the legal amount. Besides being able to pull the load, you must also stop it and the brakes won't handle it legally either.
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Thanks all for the reply's.

My F-350 diesel pulls the trailer just fine with plenty of power to spare. My main concern is the power with the V-10. I know it's no diesel but looks like that's what I'll be stuck with in the $25,000 and under used market.


With a trailer toad, upgraded hitch, and reinforced frame I not worried about the coach flexing, and when we ordered the trailer we opted for the brakes on each axle(2 total) so braking shouldn't be an issue either.

UPDATED INFO:
I also forgot to mention that I miss quoted the weight. Trailer in it's current configuration weights 9,900lbs. We are switching classes next year to a lighter and faster car so that will drop an additional 1,000 lbs, therefore getting the haul down to 9,000lbs.


Is that still to much weight for a 3 valve v-10 and torqshift transmission????



I'm not trying to argue the fact that it can/can't just trying to get my facts before I make a purchase.


Thanks again all for your input.
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The V10 in your pick up instead of the diesel could probably do it to. The problem is the additional 8k to 10k that the house would weigh. You can do one or the other but not both. Even with the upgrades you mention it is not recommended. For an RV beyond 19 feet most of your suggested upgrades have already been done to handle the extra size and weight of the house. I would suggest trying to lighten the tow load or bite the bullit and get the toterhome.
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Looks like to be legal and have enough power I'll have to look at a diesel super C or like maddawgs said a toterhome.


Thanks again all for the help and the advice I found here is invaluable.
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Have you considered an 8 1/2' TC for your PU. That will keep you in your limits and you won't need a hitch extention. We took ours on one of our snow bird trips to Ca. & Az. We were gone for about 2 months and were quite comfortable. It alowed us to park most any where when traveling and if we decided to move on a whim, we just shut the door and left. Our TC has a queen size bed. I have towed our 28' TT (9K loaded weight) with the TC and it works real well.
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Have you considered an 8 1/2' TC for your PU. That will keep you in your limits and you won't need a hitch extention. We took ours on one of our snow bird trips to Ca. & Az. We were gone for about 2 months and were quite comfortable. It alowed us to park most any where when traveling and if we decided to move on a whim, we just shut the door and left. Our TC has a queen size bed. I have towed our 28' TT (9K loaded weight) with the TC and it works real well.
Yes, I have considered that but with a family of 5 (3 adults & 2 kids) it would be a bit cramped.
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E450 only comes with the V10 2 valve engine. I have an 08.
You can tow almost anything. But will have a Hell of a time stopping it at that weight.
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