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Old 02-08-2018, 11:08 PM   #1
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Ford E350 or E450 for Class C

Looking at minnie winnie class c model 22m, 24 ft. Can be ordered with either the f350 1 ton or f450 1 1/2 ton. We are retired so just the 2 of us traveling with possible towing a sub-compact car. Also considering renting a car and not towing.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:14 PM   #2
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Looking at minnie winnie class c model 22m, 24 ft. Can be ordered with either the f350 1 ton or f450 1 1/2 ton. We are retired so just the 2 of us traveling with possible towing a sub-compact car. Also considering renting a car and not towing.
I would go with the F-450.
just to give you more weight carrying capacities and towing ...no such thing as having "Too Much"...
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:15 PM   #3
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What is the price difference? The 450 would likely give a higher carrying capacity, towing capacity, etc. If the cost is minimal, I would bump up.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:17 PM   #4
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IMHO E450. We had a short class C (25') and it was almost overloaded from the start. We also didn't tow a car in the beginning. Tongue weight on a car towed four down or on a dolly is very low so it really should not matter from that standpoint which chassis you get, but you will be able to put much more "stuff" in to the E450 and not have to worry about being overweight.
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Old 02-08-2018, 11:40 PM   #5
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F450. Is also supposed to have more robust brakes.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:36 AM   #6
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Ahhhhhh, that's E350 or E450.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:45 AM   #7
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One con to the E450 is a very stiff/rough ride due to the underweight of a short coach. Remember they are building to 32 ft on these things. Our short E450 has a CCC of over 3800 lbs.. crazy. I do have to say the braking power is impressive though.
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Old 02-09-2018, 06:09 PM   #8
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450 with six speed transmission is the way to go.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:34 PM   #9
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Wink Under 25' get the E-350

If you are buying a Class C that is under 25' you do not need an E-450, the E-350 is the better choice for a number of reasons. The 350 will have a softer, smoother ride and will get better mileage. The 350 comes with a 4:10 differential and the 450 with 4:56, the difference is significant.

The actual difference in the construction of the 350 vs 450 is minimal. Go to the Ford website and compare them side by side. For example, yes the brakes are slightly larger on the 450 but they need to be as it is 2,000# heavier than the 350. The payload will be higher on the 450... again, it better be as they weigh 2,000# more than the 350.

The performance of the engine and drive train will be far better on the 350. Both will have the exact same motor and transmission but the 450 will be humping an extra ton. As far as towing the 350 will do a better job as it has more power, well actually the same power as the 450 but without the extra ton of load.

The 450's are found in Class C's up to 34'+. Unfortunately, they have little payload/CCC because they are heavy right off of the showroom floor. Larger Class C's suffer from seriously challenged handling/turning ability {radius} which is not an inherent fault of the 450 chassis, it is just a poor design with the often severe overhang.

Let me repeat... if you are buying a Class C that is less than 25' overall then IMHO, the 350 is definitely the way to go. Larger than 25' for all of the reasons listed above the 450 starts to become the better choice and just about any Class C over 26' will only come with the 450.

In the spirit of full disclosure I have owned our 2012 Nexus E-350 for 4.5 years and 42,000+ trouble free miles from coast to coast and then some, often towing my Harley. While I love the 5 speed Torque Shift transmission I have heard nothing but wonderful things about the newer 6 speeds found on both the 350 and 450.

As always.... Opinions and YMMV.

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Old 02-09-2018, 08:07 PM   #10
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More payload with the E450 all other things being equal. Worth a few dollars more IMO.
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If it were me, and i had 2 monaco DP'S I would go with the E450, once you load it, have it weighed and adjust tire pressure for the load your carrying, should ride softer than the max weight i have on our E450.
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Look at the new Dynamax Isata 5 30FW really nice small E450 Class C, Isata 5 30FW Class C Motorhomes by Dynamax. You might consider a new small half ton 5th wheel from Grand Design, https://www.granddesignrv.com/showro...ies/floorplans, 220RK is less that 27' long and 12' high. The new 2019 Dodge Ram1500 with the 3.92 axle ration and 5.7 engine can carry more than 12000 lbs. Really nice safety features and standards.
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That Isata will probably be on a Dodge 5500 platform with the Cummings/AISIN drivetrain. It makes me happy to see sub 30' Class Cs on Class V chassis...I think that's the right application to use them the way people actually want to use them and the incremental cost isn't much vs a cutaway van chassis.

I wouldn't fool with a fifth wheel on a half ton, especially for full time.
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Over the last 5 years we have downsized from a 40 ft Diplomat , to a 33 Ft Monarch and last week we took it down to a 2018 Jayco Greyhawk 26J with a E450. Jayco makes a good coach with a TWO year warranty and a J-Ride chassis improvement right from the factory to soften the ride. Jayco has lots of sizes and features.....might be worth checking them out. We like the E450 and have had V10 and F-350 before and no complaints. I'd go the E450, but your choice.
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