ford V10 dies without warning!

gmanuel740 · 06-20-2006, 05:05 AM

we have a 05 tioga with a ford V10--it dies without warning--engine stops which leaves us with no power steering or power breaks--the first time this happened was in florida and the dealer said they were having so many problems with the fuel pump they could not get one in florida and had to order one from atlanta--it is now in the shop in colorado--the engine stopped 6 times in less than 150 miles--the dealer now says he can't find anything wrong--this is a new coach (we now have 9000 miles)--anyone else have or has experienced this problem--it ruins your day when going up or down a mountain pass when this happens--thanks for you help----

gmanuel740 · 06-20-2006, 05:05 AM

we have a 05 tioga with a ford V10--it dies without warning--engine stops which leaves us with no power steering or power breaks--the first time this happened was in florida and the dealer said they were having so many problems with the fuel pump they could not get one in florida and had to order one from atlanta--it is now in the shop in colorado--the engine stopped 6 times in less than 150 miles--the dealer now says he can't find anything wrong--this is a new coach (we now have 9000 miles)--anyone else have or has experienced this problem--it ruins your day when going up or down a mountain pass when this happens--thanks for you help----

**"007"** · 06-20-2006, 08:59 AM

Welcome gmanuel740 to irv2

Had a 96 Ford that had same problems as you and it was same fuel pump. Has anyone checked or changed your fuel filter because that will give you same problem if getting plugged.
Has anyone checked wiring batt & ground connections could have a loose wire. Wires that may have fallin onto hot tail pipe have been known to give you a problem.
These are just somethings to check when you get it resolved please let us know the results.
I will make a short cut to Ford Chassis Forum also to try and help you.

RV4FunFixer · 06-22-2006, 12:50 PM

Have you received a recall notice from Ford or check one of the many websites for a recall.
It seems as though Ford is having a problem with V10s shutting off witout warning and they are saying "a crash could occur".
They have a recall dated 7-22-05 that involves the Fuel Injector Control Module Wiring Harness and the Injector Control Pressure Sensor connector
Hope it helps
Mike

gmanuel740 · 06-23-2006, 06:03 AM

thanks for the info--I have searched the web for the recall notice you mentioned and have not been able to find it--could you post the site where I can find it--It sure will help--also, the coach has been in the shop for approx. 24days since we bought it new in feb.--we have approx.9000miles and now its in the shop for misc. reasons--after the rv dealer gets finished fixing the rv problems it goes back to ford--anyone have any experience with lemon laws? looks like I may have a 30 foot container for lemonade---thanks

**Hitchhiker** · 06-23-2006, 10:29 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RV4FunFixer:
They have a recall dated 7-22-05 that involves the Fuel Injector Control Module Wiring Harness and the Injector Control Pressure Sensor connector
Hope it helps </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mike, Are you sure that recall applies to the V10? In the verbiage, it reads "EQUIPPED WITH 6.0L DIESEL ENGINES".

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
RECALL MAKE FORD
RECALL MODEL E450
RECALL YEAR 2005
COMPONENT DESC ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
MFR INVOLVED FORD MOTOR COMPANY
MFR BEGIN 31-MAR-04
MFR END 19-MAY-04
REPORT TYPE VEHICLE
TOTAL AFFECTED 180104
OWNER NOTIFIED <span class="ev_code_RED">22-JUL-05 </span>
RECALL INITIATOR ODI
MFR RESPONSIBLE FORD MOTOR COMPANY
REPORT RECEIVED DATE 10-JUN-05
RECORD DATE 10-JUN-05
DEFECT SUMMARY CERTAIN PICKUP TRUCKS, SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND <span class="ev_code_RED">VANS EQUIPPED WITH 6.0L DIESEL ENGINES</span> MAY EXPERIENCE STALLING WITHOUT WARNING WHILE DRIVING AND MAY OR MAY NOT RESTART.
CONSEQUENCE SUMMARY SHOULD THE ENGINE STALL, A VEHICLE CRASH COULD OCCUR.
CORRECTIVE ACTION DEALERS WILL UPGRADE THE FUEL INJECTION CONTROL MODULE (FICM) WIRE HARNESS OR REPLACED, AND/OR HAVE A NEW INJECTION CONTROL PRESSURE (ICP)) SENSOR CONNECTOR INSTALLED FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON JULY 22, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT FORD AT 1-800-392-3673. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

RV4FunFixer · 06-23-2006, 03:40 PM

I went through "find the recall per vehicle" and used the V10 as the motor of choice and it took me to the same recall as the deisel.
As a matter of fact just about any size engine you inserted into column took you to the same recall.
Since it appears to be a harness/ connector problem they may share some or all components within engine families.
34 yrs in the auto industry has taught me that they don't always make it easy to get it done.
I would call your local Ford dealer for more precise details.
Good Luck and be careful.
Mike

peter griffin · 08-13-2006, 02:17 PM

check the mass air flow if it gets plugged even with a bug it will shut you down...it feels like a fuel problem though...

**"007"** · 08-13-2006, 05:08 PM

peter griffin from massa--- welcome to irv2

Thanks for posting enjoy the forums and post often.

You can put your coach and chassis info in your signature block on second page of your profile and it will appear everytime you post.

LVJ58 · 08-14-2006, 08:56 AM

We had a similar problem with our 95 town car and it turned out to be a faulty fuel pump relay module. It was a small cube plug in type module located in the engine compartment near the firewall. It was one of 3 plug in modules. Don't know if the same type is currently used with the later model v-10 engines.

Jim

M&EM · 08-17-2006, 07:56 PM

Don't know if this is relevant. On my 95 ford chassis class C and on our 92 ford explorer there was a fuel pump emergency shut off switch that was inertia actuated such as in a crash. This switch was typically located in the passenger side cowling trim under the dash area. I have read in the internet years ago that this switch was problem-some and could cause the engine/pump to stop. Just a thought..