Ford v10 vs. Chevy V8?

[FW5000DRIVER]

Originally Posted by The Shadow

I think you will find they only sold the Class A biz and part of it included supplying the 8.1 engine.

A few years ago some C's with Workhorse on them appeared but they were built entirely by GM and the WH label was just that they had "consulted" with GM. Workhorse got concerned about warranty issues and made it very clear on its web site that the Class C units were not theirs and should be taken to a GM dealer for warranty and service.

Thanks. Im on mobile and can't see your rig. What do you have? What engine? I see you pulling some vehicle. Is it light weight? I assume so.

[FW5000DRIVER]

Originally Posted by jimbo16720

My 27 ft chevy with a 454 has plenty of power and torque and gets 11mpg. I haven't have any of those problems you list with it and it's an 86.

Mine has performed well also. I have the 454 V8 7.4L. I did replace the MAF sensor just recently. Piece of cake.

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by FW5000DRIVER

Thanks. Im on mobile and can't see your rig. What do you have? What engine? I see you pulling some vehicle. Is it light weight? I assume so.

Have a 2011 27 ft 10 inch Itasca Impulse on a E450 and tow a 2011 Escape.

Previously a 2007 Jayco Greyhawk 32SS on Chevy Kodiak with a Chevy 8.1 Vortec, Allison 1000 6 speed, towing a 2007 Tahoe LTZ. Prior to that a 2006 HR Ambassador 40 PLQ with 8.3 Cummins and Allison 3000 towing the Tahoe and prior to that a Colorado. Prior to the HR, a 2004 Winnie Journey 39W with Cat C7 and Allison 3000 towing Colorado. And first was a 2000 Triple E Commander (our only used unit) 34 ft, on Ford F53 with 4 speed transmission - didn't tow because DW was of the view anyone who had to two a car behind a motorhome simply didn't know how to plan their trip. Experience proved her wrong.

[FW5000DRIVER]

Originally Posted by The Shadow

Have a 2011 27 ft 10 inch Itasca Impulse on a E450 and tow a 2011 Escape.

Previously a 2007 Jayco Greyhawk 32SS on Chevy Kodiak with a Chevy 8.1 Vortec, Allison 1000 6 speed, towing a 2007 Tahoe LTZ. Prior to that a 2006 HR Ambassador 40 PLQ with 8.3 Cummins and Allison 3000 towing the Tahoe and prior to that a Colorado. Prior to the HR, a 2004 Winnie Journey 39W with Cat C7 and Allison 3000 towing Colorado. And first was a 2000 Triple E Commander (our only used unit) 34 ft, on Ford F53 with 4 speed transmission - didn't tow because DW was of the view anyone who had to two a car behind a motorhome simply didn't know how to plan their trip. Experience proved her wrong.

I thought about towing DW's Escape with us. Lighter than my Explorer. I wonder how much gas I will burn extra with the V8 454?

[Davinger]

After some exhaustive research I have to admit that I stand corrected. Chevrolet IS still making the 4500 series chassis cab. As shown below.


The question is, why aren't most RV manufacturers using them anymore? I called several dealers to ask why they claim that there is a production problem with Chevrolet. Ford has the capability to mass produce the V10 but Chevrolet isn't as fast. The second reason is that the Ford's chassis comes stock with 300 more LBS in the GVWR and in some of the larger models that is important. They gave several other reasons but they sounded more like personal opinion so I wont give them credence.

[FW5000DRIVER]

Originally Posted by Davinger

After some exhaustive research I have to admit that I stand corrected. Chevrolet IS still making the 4500 series chassis cab. As shown below.

The question is, why aren't most RV manufacturers using them anymore? I called several dealers to ask why they claim that there is a production problem with Chevrolet. Ford has the capability to mass produce the V10 but Chevrolet isn't as fast. The second reason is that the Ford's chassis comes stock with 300 more LBS in the GVWR and in some of the larger models that is important. They gave several other reasons but they sounded more like personal opinion so I wont give them credence.

There is an RV down the road with that Chevy front end.

[The Shadow]

Originally Posted by Davinger

After some exhaustive research I have to admit that I stand corrected. Chevrolet IS still making the 4500 series chassis cab. As shown below.
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The question is, why aren't most RV manufacturers using them anymore? I called several dealers to ask why they claim that there is a production problem with Chevrolet. Ford has the capability to mass produce the V10 but Chevrolet isn't as fast. The second reason is that the Ford's chassis comes stock with 300 more LBS in the GVWR and in some of the larger models that is important. They gave several other reasons but they sounded more like personal opinion so I wont give them credence.

I'm surprised that GM can't get production levels up. The 300 lb difference is fairly recent as it was more like 2000 lbs earlier before GM upped the anti. Then, its competition was the E350 - which I'd never buy and one manufacturer told me they'd never build on. If that video wasn't cooked GM should be able to capture a much larger share of this market and force Ford to get off of its butt and improve the E450 - although I expect to see Ford put the improvements into the larger version of the Transit, which I think is used for MHs in Europe and Australia. If that comparison was truthful, I wouldn't hesitate to switch to a Chev chassis if I change MHs again - although we have been thinking the next one might well be a View - but we'd like the 24V floor plan with an overhead bed, which they aren't doing at this time.

[Davinger]

Originally Posted by The Shadow

If that video wasn't cooked GM should be able to capture a much larger share of this market and force Ford to get off of its butt and improve the E450 - although I expect to see Ford put the improvements into the larger version of the Transit, which I think is used for MHs in Europe and Australia. If that comparison was truthful, I wouldn't hesitate to switch to a Chev chassis if I change MHs again - although we have been thinking the next one might well be a View - but we'd like the 24V floor plan with an overhead bed, which they aren't doing at this time.

2012 is officially the last year of the Ford E Series van. 2013 the Ford Transit will be taking it's place. I am not sure if they will be making it in a style that is big enough to accommodate a large class C. We shall see...

Mercedes is the front end on some small Class C's but I have yet to see a floor plan that I like.

[Maddawgs]

Originally Posted by Davinger

2012 is officially the last year of the Ford E Series van. 2013 the Ford Transit will be taking it's place. I am not sure if they will be making it in a style that is big enough to accommodate a large class C. We shall see...

Mercedes is the front end on some small Class C's but I have yet to see a floor plan that I like.

I think Ford plans to continue the the cab chassis (van cutaway) for the Rv industry. It is just the van they are replacing.
Todd

[wanderso]

I have a 2001 class c on the Chevy chassis. Last year of the 454. Has been a good rig. On Ford, the long term plan is to discontinue the E series, but initially they will sell it along side the transit, which will be known as the T-Series. Think of this like what Ford did in 1997. When the new F150 came out, the 250 and 350 continued for a time to be made on their old chassis platform until Ford was ready with their new "super duty". It sure seems like they plan to do the same here, allowing the existing plant to finish out the E series line while they provide a heavier duty version as time progresses on the T-Series.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/12/08/h...ling-e-series/