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Ed_G · 12-14-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Winterbagoal

The Ford diesel and chassis are lighter in terms of GVWR/GCWR than any/all of the MB Sprinter based chassis. Might tow a Smart Car or a Fit or maybe a Prius with one, but that's about it. I think the Ford cab chassis GCWR is around 13,000 lbs - the Sprinter is 15,250. Seems odd with the higher torque rating, but it is what it is.
The Fuse would be a good choice if you aren't going to ever think about parking it somewhere for a while, and pull a towed along for errands. It would handle a couple of e-bikes for transportation at a longer term destination. Like when snowbirding. My Navion will pull a 4300 lb. Wrangler by comparison.

The GCWR for a Winnebago Fuse is 13,500; the GVWR is 10,380. While the various Sprinter based RVs had higher GCWR ratings, I found it interesting that the OCCC ( actual cargo carrying capacity ) of the Fuse tended to be noticeably higher than most of the Sprinter based units we looked at. While the class II hitch on the Fuse is rated at 5000 pounds, Winnebago apparently recommends not exceeding 3500 pounds Tow vehicle weight.

Winterbagoal · 12-14-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed_G

The GCWR for a Winnebago Fuse is 13,500; the GVWR is 10,380. While the various Sprinter based RVs had higher GCWR ratings, I found it interesting that the OCCC ( actual cargo carrying capacity ) of the Fuse tended to be noticeably higher than most of the Sprinter based units we looked at. While the class II hitch on the Fuse is rated at 5000 pounds, Winnebago apparently recommends not exceeding 3500 pounds Tow vehicle weight.

That's why I suggested bringing a couple of e-bikes along for errand running with the Fuse, if you were going to stay put somewhere for a bit. If it's got more OCCC than the Navion, might as well use it for something.
We've got the choice of e-bikes, or a mid-sized towed, or both. We've got about 600 pounds of available OCCC under our GVWR of 11,030 lbs when we're loaded for travel, or around 250 lbs if we tow. The Wrangler eats up about 350 lbs of the GVWR under the GCWR of 15,250 lbs. We'd be pushing the envelope a bit, but we could drag a couple of (e)bikes along, if we reduced our usual travel cargo, and reallocated some of that weight to them. It's all doable, with a little creativity.

Ron Dittmer · 12-15-2018, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hooligan

Manufacturers are now offering RV's on the 2019 Sprinter chassis. Some LTV class B orders have been given the option to upgrade to the 2019. That chassis is redesigned, has many safety upgrades and a new cockpit and safety technologies. (lane keeping, collision avoidance, 360 degree camera), Load limits have increased by over 1000 pounds and a new 9 speed automatic transmission.

CLICK HERE for the specs on the 2019 Sprinter.

A new Sprinter 4500 series C&C is being introduced for 2019.
Max GVWR is 12,125 pounds which is excellent
Price starts at $52,000.

The 2019 3500XD chassis is....
Max GVWR is 11,030 pounds like before
Price for a 2018 starts at $37,920
Price for a 2019 starts at $51,000

The 2019 models are better. The new higher-rated 4500 series is ideal for motor homes, but plan to pay an additional $14,000 for one. There is already a $14,000 price hike for a 2018 Sprinter over an E350. The price hike has doubled to $28,000.

texkayaker · 12-15-2018, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Dittmer

CLICK HERE for the specs on the 2019 Sprinter.

A new Sprinter 4500 series C&C is being introduced for 2019.
Max GVWR is 12,125 pounds which is excellent
Price starts at $52,000.

The 2019 3500XD chassis is....
Max GVWR is 11,030 pounds like before
Price for a 2018 starts at $37,920
Price for a 2019 starts at $51,000

The 2019 models are better. The new higher-rated 4500 series is ideal for motor homes, but plan to pay an additional $14,000 for one. There is already a $14,000 price hike for a 2018 Sprinter over an E350. The price hike has doubled to $28,000.

Wow, $28,000 more than an E350. That would purchase enough gas at the current price of less than $2.00 gal here to let me travel for many years at 9.5 mpg.

jcussen · 12-15-2018, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by texkayaker

Wow, $28,000 more than an E350. That would purchase enough gas at the current price of less than $2.00 gal here to let me travel for many years at 9.5 mpg.

Wow, I have a Mercedes diesel SUV and a diesel pusher motorhome, so I like diesels, but if I was getting a class C, that $28000 would be hard to justify.

bimmerdog · 12-16-2018, 06:54 PM

I am getting a 2019 Mercedes Cab Chassis with all the options and a 2020 Leisure Unity FX will be built on the chassis. My upgrade charge for this chassis is $5,145. The Cab Chassis gets a new 7 speed transmission. It has the same front interior as the Sprinter Van. I am more then happy to pay this difference for the 2019 Mercedes.

Hooligan · 12-17-2018, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmerdog

I am getting a 2019 Mercedes Cab Chassis with all the options and a 2020 Leisure Unity FX will be built on the chassis. My upgrade charge for this chassis is $5,145. The Cab Chassis gets a new 7 speed transmission. It has the same front interior as the Sprinter Van. I am more then happy to pay this difference for the 2019 Mercedes.

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Your increase is more in line with what I have seen posted for the 2019 Sprinter. Another forum on the 2019 full vans indicated 6-7000 dollar upcharge.

Lstyles · 12-20-2018, 06:15 PM

Does anyone know if other RV manufacturers (e.g. Winnebago plans to use the new sprinter chassis for their vehicles? It would be nice to have that extra carrying capacity and safety features in a class c (e.g. view).

Hooligan · 12-21-2018, 09:30 AM

Reading post #32 above (texkayker) the weight limits for the cutaway chassis used for Class C Rv's remains the same. Some of the full vans used for Class B will have increased GVWR.
Someone posted the cutaway chassis (with the new safety features) will still be imported while the full vans will now be built in MB new Charleston SC plant..

Lstyles · 12-22-2018, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hooligan

Reading post #32 above (texkayker) the weight limits for the cutaway chassis used for Class C Rv's remains the same. Some of the full vans used for Class B will have increased GVWR.
Someone posted the cutaway chassis (with the new safety features) will still be imported while the full vans will now be built in MB new Charleston SC plant..

Sorry it was not clear to me from above that only the class Bs would be utilizing the upgraded chassis.