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Old 04-20-2008, 05:50 PM   #1
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I just started looking this weekend, we looked at the 31' Tioga and Access. We liked the Fleetwood Tioga more, but could not get a good answer on which model is more durable and reliable. Of course each dealer downgraded the others product. Please give me an honest review please. We would be interested in other brands.

I will be pulling a 4runner or a trailer full of atvs. I have been reading a lot about the weight issues and I am unsure if either of these can handle what I need it to handle.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-20-2008, 05:50 PM   #2
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I just started looking this weekend, we looked at the 31' Tioga and Access. We liked the Fleetwood Tioga more, but could not get a good answer on which model is more durable and reliable. Of course each dealer downgraded the others product. Please give me an honest review please. We would be interested in other brands.

I will be pulling a 4runner or a trailer full of atvs. I have been reading a lot about the weight issues and I am unsure if either of these can handle what I need it to handle.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:09 PM   #3
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You need to get the weight of the 4Runner and also the trailer you plan to tow - the loaded weight as it will be when you tow. Then check that against the towing capacity of any rig you consider. You need to learn the coach hitch rating and also its tow limits, which is basically the difference between its GVWR and it GCWR.

For the larger Tiogas I believe it is 5000 towing and 5000 lb hitch rating. It's on the Fleetwood website. You should be able to find specs for the Access elsewhere.
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:06 PM   #4
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Noodles, We have the 31M 2007 Tioga. It has about 14000 miles on it. As to the reliability, the Ford is great, and we haven't had any problems with the box either. The hitch is rated at 3500#s. Kinda small for heavy hauling tho. The ccc is at the limits with our gear on board for traveling, so you will not be able to put much hitch weight on the hitch. Marvh
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Noodles, welcome to iRV2.com. We are glad to have you join us here and we hope we can be of help for your research. I am sure you will enjoy this webstie and forum and find many answers to questions. As mentioned, you will want to look at rigs with the higher Cargo Carrying Capacity and Gross Combined Weight Rated units to handle the load you are wanting to carry. Good luck and keep us posted
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With a large class C, weight is always and issue. We had a 1999 Minniw Winnie 31A, no slide) and with 1/4 tank of water, empty waste tanks, full fuel, our total loaded weight was 13,950#, only 100# from the chasis limit of 14,050#.

Also, most use a 3500# hitch due to the long frame extensions on the rear of the RV. These extensions are less than full frame depth and are not designed to tow a lot. Some folks have a welder beef up the frame and add a 5000# hitch, but it is not factory approved. A few have a 5000# hitch...but never anymore.

Having owned both class A's and C's, if I were to go back to a motorhome in the 30' plus range, I'd look at the small class A's. The frames are generally designed for more load.

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Old 05-18-2008, 06:01 PM   #7
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Noodles -
Yesterday we drove our new 2008 Access 31J off the lot! I have to say in the drive home and 1st night camping we love the unit.
The wife and I were actually comparing the same two units...In the end is came down to floor plan and comfort as we both come from Winnebago families.
Good luck in your search and hope you are able to get something done soon!
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Old 05-19-2008, 10:30 AM   #8
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If you want more towing capacity and you are committed to a C you might want to look at some of the Super Cs,i.e. Seneca by Jayco; Endura and Super Nova by Gulfstream come to mind. Look at the Jayco and Gulfstream web sites to see if they fit your needs, Ken,'04 DSDP....
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If I was in the market for a standard class C, not a Super C, I would put the Forest River Forester at the top of my list and I like the #3161 floor plan on the Chevy/Workhorse chassis. As a matter of fact, once this fuel crisis is over, a friend of mine is buying one of these. Chuck/Bagman57
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Old 05-29-2008, 08:25 AM   #10
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Being a dealer you may be surprised at hearing this come from me. I will not bash anyone elses product (with exception of Coachman, everyone that has ever been on my lot has leaked) The Access and and Tioga 31' foot models are fine motorhomes. The Chateau from Four Winds has 2 differant 31 ft floor plans. Most manufacturs make a differant level of class C's to hit differant price points. A typical 31' without full body paint at the selling price (never but at MSRP) should be in upper 60's to low 80's. Full body paint can up to about $9000 to the price of the unit. Some modles have higher quality cabinets and interiors than others and can make them more expensive.
Most of the equipment in differant brands however is exactly the SAME. They all use Dometic or Norcold refers. Same with ovens and microwaves, water pumps, A/C units, furnaces, slide out mechanisms, shower enclosures, toilets, sinks, fixtures, beds, couches, chairs, compartment doors, plumbing lines etc etc.

My point is this. Find a floor plan you like and reputable LOCAL dealer. Most all of your RV's are made in a very similar fashion. What truly sets them apart is the dealer that will service you.
DO NOT BUY OFF THE INTERNET SPECIALS YOU SEE. If you ever need service you will in 90% of the cases have a nightmare--Again-- BUY LOCALY providing they have what you want. DO NOT BUY FROM A DEALER THAT HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS LESS THAN 10 YEARS IF YOU CAN HELP IT.

RV' dealers go in and out of business everyday. Theya re almost as bad as Home Improvement contractors. Use an established dealer that has longevity and a good established customer base. You want good service and if they have been around for a while chances are they are doing things right!

Your 31ft Class C's are almost all made exclusivly on the Ford chassis with V10 or Chevy workhorse chassis. Either will tow a small car adequately or an open trialer with a few 4-wheelers in it BUT-you need to be careful qwith teh weight. Generally all of these units have 5000lb hitches on them but most only can pull about 3500lbs when you look at the combined vehicle weight rating. Don't be fooled in to thinking you can tow 5000lbs just because it has a 5K hitch.

If you want higher tow ratings the Kodiak Diesel Super C's are the way to go. The Chateau Super C gives you a 10,000lb tow capacity. And yes it will tow 10,000. This is the most popular with those people towing car trailers that weigh around 7K-8Klbs.

Compare floor plans and prices. You can find Super C's from upper 90's to 200K depending on brand, paint scheme and optional equipment. Some I believe are over priced compared to similar models (Jayco Seneca) but remember to compare apples to apples.

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