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Old 07-20-2015, 07:44 PM   #1
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Mysterious plumbing damage from tire blowout on my 1993 Fleetwood Jamboree

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I very recently purchased my first motorhome, a 1993 Fleetwood Jamboree Searcher. A couple of days after getting it home, I was going through all of the compartments and noticed sunlight shining in through the carpet on the floor of the compartment that is just to the rear of the refrigerator (also just to the rear of the driver side rear wheel-well. I could see the carpet was torn and there was some sort of plumbing fixture protruding partially through it. I pulled back the carpet and saw that there was a gaping hole right into the wheel-well and there were two "tees" each with a short length of what appears to be broken tubing attached. I went outside to inspect and noticed that the mudflap is missing and there is a gaping hole that looks like it was caused by a massive tire blowout, with the aforementioned plumbing just sticking out. Previous owner claims to have been completely unaware of this and says he has used the plumbing systems recently, with no problems. I am afraid to hook up a water supply for fear that this broken plumbing will wreak havoc on my motorhome. Since I was unable to find any other plumbing pieces that appear to "mate" with the broken pieces, I wondered if these "tees" were never supposed to be connected to anything, or if they might be some kind of passive drainage or air vent for the water supply plumbing. I really know nothing about this stuff but I am a pretty quick study, I would really appreciate any help or words of wisdom that anyone more experienced with this kind of thing would be willing to offer. I have attached some photos to help illustrate what I'm talking about. Thanks in advance for any help!
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Old 07-20-2015, 08:03 PM   #2
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Looks like hot and cold supply to me. I would hook up the water and turn it on just a little while having someone watch. I can't believe the previous owner wasn't aware of it.
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Old 07-22-2015, 08:58 AM   #3
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The previous owner is a liar. That had to be a hell of a blowout to put a hole in the floor.
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It looks to me like they are, or at least were, drain valves for the water lines. I assume you haven't checked your plumbing, whether with your onboard water pump or using city/campground water ?
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I agree with Mich F, drain valves..... This doesn't look like a blow out but rather a tread delamination pummeling the underneath before coming to a stop. Looking at picture number two the outside dually looks much newer than the inside so my guess is that the inside dually tread caused the damage and the owner had the newer tire put on the outside. Whoever changed the tire(s) SHOULD have seen the damage! You have an additional issue now that the inside and outside duallys are likely a different size due to wear. Ok short term but long term can cause additional stress on that side. Inspect the remaining tires for cracks and date codes.
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Old 07-22-2015, 01:49 PM   #6
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Motor homes (And trailers) should have what is called LOW POINT DRAINS.. that is not where I would expect to find them.. but that is what they appear to be.. If this is the case then the hole is not necessarly damage but may be design (I would seal it up anyway)

If that bit at the top is some kind of ring.. charge the system and either push down on the center of pull up on that little loop.. they should spit water (Down onto the tire) when you do one or the other.. Releasing should stop the water flow.. If that' show they work.. that's what they are.
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The previous owner is not an honest person. Sorry you have to deal with this. I would be worried about what else he didn't tell you about. It might be worth paying a RV service place to do an inspection. Would be worth the money to find out before getting stuck with a problem on the road or while camping. Good luck.
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Thanks for the help everyone. Unfortunately, upon closer inspection there were a lot of things the previous owner neglected to tell me about this rv or hid outright. I hooked up a hose after turning it on I immediately got water shooting out in the area of the damaged plumbing and determined that it must be a "lowest point drain" for the supply lines, so I bought some sharkbite fittings and replaced the damaged parts with a tee and a cap for the time being since I am in California and not planning to use the RV in any very cold climates. As far as patching up the hole, I am not sure which patch material, sealant and fasteners to use for this, the mudflap is also missing so I imagine I should try to replace that as well. Previous owner did make me aware that one of the dual wheels on each side would need to be replaced soon due to age, but now I am worried that I might need to replace them all since his word means nothing. I am now extremely worried about what else the previous owner has been dishonest about, and I think that a visit to an rv mechanic for a complete inspection is a necessity at this point for safety if nothing else. Unfortunately I don't know what recourse I'd have except small claims court, I can't imagine anyone who would lie to some nice people like me and my girlfriend would then agree to take the rv back or reimburse me for any of these repairs without taking him to court.
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Patch it.. I would use a sheet of metal (any hardware) at the lowest point, Paint it with rust control.. Above that you have several options.

IF this is not a weight bearing point (If you are not likely to stand on it) you could simply fill it with crazy foam (That expending foam sold as "Good Stuff".. Or you could fill it with Rock Hard (a powder you mix with water) Heck even bondo but I do not recommend using that indoors.

Then lay carpet over it. If the job is big you can square it off, cut out the wood and put in new wood. Many options.
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Old 07-23-2015, 09:14 AM   #10
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If you bought it used. It has no warranty.
It is a buyers beware as is. And you have no small claims court chance of getting any money back.

Judge Judy has one case every week. Over the many years. Not one has gotten any money back from a as is sale. Unless it was a safety problem that it wouldn't pass inspection.

Before giving any money is the time to have it inspected by a mechanic.
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Yes I don't expect to be able to recover any money from the dishonest previous owner, I am suggesting I should take it to a mechanic to make sure there isn't a major safety issue that the guy neglected to mention or intentionally covered up. I've already uncovered a number of lies and I don't want the next one to cost the lives of me or my family.
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Just go and get all new tires. A set of 6 of the Cooper H/T(?) load range E can be bought at Americas Tire - all mounted, balanced, and road hazard covered for about $800.

When I bought my 1991 class c with "great looking" Michelins and plenty of tread, I got a flat on the first trip. They were old and cracked beyond service. Bought the Coopers and they are great. (made in USA too)
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