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Old 07-28-2013, 01:58 PM   #1
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I have a 1998 super duty 31 ft four winds class c on ford chassis, V10, Bought this about year ago, but made first 80 mile trip just a couple months ago, it seem to have a "wandering" issue. I knew it needed an alignment and brakes also. So had upper and lower ball joints installed with grease fittings. New HD shocks all around, new stabilizer shock, new 10 ply tires. then I had it aligned, and had them to set the caster to LH 5.3 degrees and the RH 5.5 degrees. , the ride is now great, but it still seems the steering box is a little loose. In other words it seems I'm having to correct the steering wheel back & fourth. It was a lot better with speeds of 50 -60 MPH, on interstate driving. I have just made 2nd trip (local) since the work was done. I have always had class A's, and before this class C I had a 36 ft fiver and ford dulley, so maybe I just need to get used to a class A handling. any advise? thanks
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:26 PM   #2
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Brand new tires will cause a bit of wandering for the first few thousand miles, especially if they are over inflated. That is according to my two friends who drive truck for a living.

What does your rig weigh and what does the tire manufactor recommend for air pressure at that weight?
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Inassumevyou had the steering linkage checked for bad connecting bushing. Alignment should have caught this. I would have the wife move the steering wheel back and forth, without power. Look at the steering rod and see if something is lagging. If the steering rod moves, the rod out of the gear box should move at the same rate and all through the system.
Crank the MH and observe the movement of the tires in relation to the steering wheel. Just me sitting here thinking out loud.
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Old 07-29-2013, 12:06 PM   #4
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Try thicker sway bars and new bushings.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:22 PM   #5
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thanks everyone for the advise and information. I just returned from a 130 mile round trip camping and was like "white" knuckle! lol, I have own and driven 37 ft class A , a 30 ft class A, a 28 tag along, and a 36 ft Montana fifthwheel towed with Ford 350 diesel all with no problem. I'm thinking this "thing" don't like me! lol. on this trip the HWH jacks wouldn't cooperate. When I got home and park it the dang jacks worked beautiful!! the V10 runs and pulls perfectly, has a great layout inside, and tows my 2008 ford Taurus like a dream. Its just the dang handling. I have a couple rving buddies coming over to drive it to see if there is an issue or if its just me! thanks to you all, and if anyone can think of anything else I'm missing please let it be known
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How much weight is there on the front axel. For example, our 2004 E450 front axel runs about 4400 pounds (max 4600#) on the highway and that is with about 36 USG of water aft of the rear axel plus a full load of fuel (our 3 water tanks and fuel tank are all aft of the rear axel).
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I highly recommend getting "SafeTPlus. The Steering Control Specialists | Safe-T-Plus Blog | Helping motorists' vehicles steer safer, less, and with peace of mind.
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We had the same issue with our 2013 3010ds. Had it aligned, shifted some weight up front, and added a roadmaster rear swaybar and the Safe-T-Plus. That Safe-T-Plus really helped tighten the wandering. Unfortunately we were driving on I94 West through North Dakota today and found that 25 - 35 mph winds really continue to shove the coach around - a bit disappointing.
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We had the same issue with our 2013 3010ds. Had it aligned, shifted some weight up front, and added a roadmaster rear swaybar and the Safe-T-Plus. That Safe-T-Plus really helped tighten the wandering. Unfortunately we were driving on I94 West through North Dakota today and found that 25 - 35 mph winds really continue to shove the coach around - a bit disappointing.
Have the exact same chassis as u can see in my sig. Have airbags on rear which allows me to move weight to frt. running 4600 frt 9500 rear handles like a dream full gas little water G&B empty new frt ball joints & super align in Charleston SC
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Again what is the air pressure of your tires? Mine for my weight states 60lbs front and 65 rears. I find far too many people who run theirs at max. Unless you are overweight check with your manual and try pressure. Also are you driving in wind. I just spent 5700+ miles in mine and was in all types of weather and the only time I had any issues was going through Kansas and Eastern Washington with head winds around 30mph. My rears are new and my steer tires are 5 years old.
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Have the exact same chassis as u can see in my sig. Have airbags on rear which allows me to move weight to frt. running 4600 frt 9500 rear handles like a dream full gas little water G&B empty new frt ball joints & super align in Charleston SC
forgot 65 in frt 80 rear as per Coachmen door sticker
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I have 80 lbs front and rear. I haven't weighed my class c on scales, but I know it isn't overloaded because theres nothing much but a few pairs of pants, shirts in it. nothing hardly in the fridge and the rv is 10,000 plus can carry and tow total of rv and towed 20,000 lbs as its on a 450 ford chasis with v10. But I believe I have found my problem. I had a buddy that has a MH and the steering wheel has 3-4 inches of movement before the tires even starts moving. this has even a new steering gear box less then a month ago and new front stabilizer but the stabilizer is moving up and down when wheels are turned and it is even rubbing on the bottom of the bottom hose, heck I recon a guy gotta stand and watch everything the mechanic is doing anymore. Guess that's why most have a sign up stating":Employees only for insurance reason" I think because they don't want the customer to see how dumb their mechanics are. But I'm taking this unit back tomorrow and you can bet your ass I'll be right there watching!!
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Arnold, the tires are brand new and the tire people has front and rear duals at 80 lbs. But I looked on the door sticker which four winds put on and it calls for 80 lbs rear duals and 65 lbs front. So according to this the tire guys put to much in the front. so guess I will try the front at 65 lbs. , but my steering problem is the 3 inch movement in the steering wheel before the tires even start turning! crazy!!
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Tom just a litttle heads up this frame can carry 14,050 gross +towing (mine came out at 12.012 full gas nothing else which leaves 2038 for people junk water ect) mine has a 3500 hitch which means 17000.50 gross if v5000 hitch then 20000.
Hope u get it all straigthten out soon imine handles so nice on hwy,even w/ semisif thst

try 65 on frt see if that helps
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