Can the Cold-natured Stay Warm in a MH?

[HDrider]

Oh heck yes, we have heated floors and many times that's all we have on at night and the radiant heat alone keeps things warm. When I wake up I hit the remote by the bed to turn on the electric fireplace in the living room if it's chilly and that thing does a great job. If it's really cold we kick on the Aqua Hot and trust me we can stay warm. We are in a Tiffin.

[twogypsies]

Catalytic propane heaters are specifically made for RVs and are very economical and give off a steady warm heat. We used one for 16 years of full-timing. However, we didn't sleep with it on. It only takes minutes to warm up the main living area in the morning. We like sleeping in cool/cold temps.

[Whirrlly]

absolutely cold natured people can stay very warm in a MH
a lot of good advice in the thread.
and dress warm helps a lot, don't walk around barefoot, put on nice fluffy warm slippers, that kind of thing. I love when people say it is chilly out and they are wearing shorts or a tank top, put on the correct clothes

[tuffr2]

Sorry, I have to call BS on staying toasty warm. That is an bogus statement imho.

In the cold you will need to keep a continual heating source or two going full time to stay toasty. As soon as you turn off the heating source it will get cold very fast.

I spent 5 winters in central Florida and everyone in the park no matter what rig talked about ways to keep the cold air out.

From the best advertised insulated 5th wheels to the high end $500,000 motor homes.

Sure you can do it using 2 or 3 continual heating sources. Like an oscillating tower electric heater plus the electric fireplace.
Again remove the heating sources and it gets cold.

I am now in a small Lance trailer. One of the very best insulated trailers on the planet. The A/C has been running for 2 hours trying to cool the trailer. At my house the A/C runs for 30 minutes to drop the temp the same amount.

The A/C should shut off soon. I want to test how long it will stay off. Since I am testing it now I can report back with temp rise and time if you like.



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[pasdad1]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

Sorry, I have to call BS on staying toasty warm. That is an bogus statement imho.

In the cold you will need to keep a continual heating source or two going full time to stay toasty. As soon as you turn off the heating source it will get cold very fast.

Why would you turn the heat “off” ? Leave it on thermostat. Plus as others have said, the heated tile floors work terrific.

[Sue46]

Mr. Heater works great also. We spend our winters in N Phoenix and are very comfortable, N Phoenix is much colder than FL.


We have a 36' MH with lots of windows and in 90 degree heat cool down in 30-60 minutes or less. One trick we learned is to turn on the generator and AC while we are checking in, gives everything a head start. If your small Lance can't cool down in 2 hours there is something wrong.

[tuffr2]

Test results on Lance trailer.

Temp was 75 degrees when the A/C was turned off. 13min and 26 seconds later the temp was 80 degrees.

I hate the sound of the loud furnace blower or the humm of electric heaters 24 hours a day. That is why I would turn off a heating source. Are you kidding me as to why???

Oh, the 1 A/C unit dropped the temp to 74 degrees for awhile. But still while running the inside temp jumped to 75 degrees. I expected the the A/C to shut off but it did not.

Same for a propane furnace in the winter time. The darn thing runs full time and will not get warm enough to shut off on own.

Motorhomes are not really advertised to be 4 season while 5th wheels and trailers are.

In a few weeks I plan to look at and test Artic Fox travel trailer. They compete with Lance travel trailers for being the best 4 season units.

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[pasdad1]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I hate the sound of the loud furnace blower or the humm of electric heaters 24 hours a day. That is why I would turn off a heating source. Are you kidding me as to why???

Oil filled electric radiator heaters have no fan, and are completely silent. Heated floor tiles are completely silent. Hydronic heating is very quiet compared to propane furnace...... so there are options......

[saddlesore]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

Motorhomes are not really advertised to be 4 season while 5th wheels and trailers are.



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Hmmmm...You "might" want to check "Other" motor coach mfg'rs besides the run of the mill/price point ones..
Did not have any issues with staying warm @ -10 down to -28deg for a week last winter....
Just did the normal stuff..
ie: fill fuel tank with diesel (and added anti-gel ).
Filled fresh tank & disconnected the water,
Did NOT deploy the slide(s)
Put a 100w bulb in the sewer bay and the water manifold bay..(just to cover the bases)

Stuffed insulation into the trap door for the power cord/water hose/sewer stinky slinky.

Due to marginal power (low voltage/brown out conditions... fired off the generator,(it ran set on "auto-start/stop")
Aqua Hot for heat and continuous hot showers..

No additional heaters/fans

shirt sleeve comfort...
The only thing I "might" consider is a temporary "skirting" around the bottom of the coach if it had gotten much colder.

There are a few manufacturers that do not cut corners in their designs or build components & assemblies.... But you will pay a premium for those qualities.

[tuffr2]

I checked the Foretravel web site. I agree I do not know much about the uppity high priced motorhome. Excuse me...

Anyway on the Foretravel web site I still did not see and R-values advertised like I do on 5th wheels.

Sure they talk about all those uppity, thumb your nose at the common folk, options that if I won the lottery I would need to learn about...but until that happens I couldn't care less about the very rare ultra expensive motorhomes.

Tag axle?? Motorhome on steroids.

[WheelingOn]

Originally Posted by tuffr2

I checked the Foretravel web site. I agree I do not know much about the uppity high priced motorhome. Excuse me...

Anyway on the Foretravel web site I still did not see and R-values advertised like I do on 5th wheels.

Sure they talk about all those uppity, thumb your nose at the common folk, options that if I won the lottery I would need to learn about...but until that happens I couldn't care less about the very rare ultra expensive motorhomes.

Tag axle?? Motorhome on steroids.

Maybe this will check your attitude a little bit about those uppity R-values.

https://youtu.be/QSy5582dgNI

[docj]

I'm not going to get into a debate about who's uppity, but our elderly "high end" MH has a hydronic heating system that is quite capable of keeping us warm with outside temps down in the low 30's. Hydronic heating is nothing more than a fancy name for a liquid "baseboard" heating system. In most MH's such heaters are fired off of the diesel tank so there's a nearly infinite source of energy available, compared to using propane. The system also has a supplemental electric heater that can provide ~75% of the diesel burner's heating power with less noise and less maintenance. Combine that with dual pane windows and decent insulation and we don't have to be cold.

[JFXG]

tuffr2...
On 7/3 you wrote—

Originally Posted by tuffr2

.....I am now in a small Lance trailer. One of the very best insulated trailers on the planet.....

Later on 7/3 you wrote that in your test the temp inside your Lance trailer rose from 75 to 80 in just 13:26.

These two statements are not compatible. I can offer no explanation. You are the claimant.

[FatChance]

We have spent two winters living in our 2004 Newmar Mountain Aire DP 4016 in Flagstaff, AZ. The elevation here is 7000' and they have real winters. Two winters ago we had 6 feet of snow, but only 1 foot last year. There are many nights it gets down to single digits and it is very windy here. I get up on the roof whenever it snows and keep it swept or shoveled clean.

Our single propane furnace has no problem keeping us warm and toasty and doesn't run anywhere even remotely all the time. We sometimes supplement with a electric heater when watching TV at night and have an electric heated mattress pad and a good down comforter and sleep well. I set the thermostat down to the low 60s at night and up to about 70 in the evening. I use a couple of those pads in the ceiling fans and they help. Newmars have good insulation and dual pane windows and can easily handle winter weather.

We stay warm and comfortable all winter long. Some here may not believe it, but maybe they should try it before saying it cannot be done.