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Old 09-07-2018, 08:01 AM   #1
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Homeless in RV, or "Full-timer?

What's the difference? A city in California is going to be providing free waste dumps for "homeless in RV". The reasoning is that it is cheaper than cleaning up the waste currently dumped in the street.
That makes fiscal sense, and I don't have a problem with it, but I don't understand the difference between homeless and full-time in an RV. Can you please explain?
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Old 09-07-2018, 08:14 AM   #2
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A ranger at Glacier National Park introduced me to a new term she said the Census bureau was using.... Affluent Homeless.
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its the attitude of the owner, and their financial situation. full time is someone who can afford campgrounds and finer amenities of life. like fuel and electricity. they have the means and desire to travel and enjoy life.
homeless is living in something that represents all you have. financial or otherwise.
i have helped some of those folks when they had problems with the coach they exist in. there is a difference between existing and living in an rv.

some times its an attitude, and not being willing to help themselves, but most are just broke. either due to poor choices, or just old age and disability.
either way, i feel the need to help if i can and dont mind helping with repairs when its evident they really need it.

when you see these old coaches in walmart, just hug your spouse, and make sure you dont fall into the same situation. we never know what tomorrow brings.
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Just MHO..... we full time in the RV. We consider ourselves "home less" simply because we don't have a fixed location to call home.


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  1. Affluent vs poor
  2. Homeless by choice vs no other choice
  3. Planned vs unplanned
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We are HOUSELESS, not homeless. Our home is where we park it.
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Old 09-07-2018, 04:38 PM   #7
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A ranger at Glacier National Park introduced me to a new term she said the Census bureau was using.... Affluent Homeless.
I thought the OP was talking about Effluent Homeless.
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its the attitude of the owner, and their financial situation. full time is someone who can afford campgrounds and finer amenities of life. like fuel and electricity. they have the means and desire to travel and enjoy life.
homeless is living in something that represents all you have. financial or otherwise.
i have helped some of those folks when they had problems with the coach they exist in. there is a difference between existing and living in an rv.

some times its an attitude, and not being willing to help themselves, but most are just broke. either due to poor choices, or just old age and disability.
either way, i feel the need to help if i can and dont mind helping with repairs when its evident they really need it.

when you see these old coaches in walmart, just hug your spouse, and make sure you dont fall into the same situation. we never know what tomorrow brings.
Yessir, you nailed it.
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We are HOUSELESS, not homeless. Our home is where we park it.
Exactly
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The difference is in many other parts of the country you can find free dump stations for anyone, not only the homeless. I have seen them at random highway side rest areas in various states, my town even has one by the baseball field at the local park.
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What city?

I suspect they called it that so the people who were homeless would know it was specifically for them and they would utilize it without fear of reprimand.
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What city?

I suspect they called it that so the people who were homeless would know it was specifically for them and they would utilize it without fear of reprimand.
I'm not sure. I was listening to an L.A. radio station and missed what city they were referring to. But suspect Venice or Santa Monica because it's a huge problem in those areas. Everyone wants to live by the beach.
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I'm not sure. I was listening to an L.A. radio station and missed what city they were referring to. But suspect Venice or Santa Monica because it's a huge problem in those areas. Everyone wants to live by the beach.
Here in San Diego we have several free dumps near Mission Bay. Unfortunately "the homeless" many times dump without using a hose resulting in a rather unsavory condition at the dump station. Don't know if they just can't afford a hose or if they just don't care. My buddy tried to loan a hose to a guy at the dump station but he refused and just went ahead and pulled the valve. Fortunately I have a dump at my house but my buddies rely on these dumps and I fear that if this keeps up the city may eventually close them.
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A bit off topic but San Francisco has had a "poop patrol" for a while (human poop, not pet waste). But in the past they only responded to complaints by residents. Now they're going to actually assigning teams to certain locations based on the number of past complaints. In other words, there's so much human waste on the streets or in parks in S.F. that they need full time teams to keep up with it all. So I don't doubt other cities have problems with illegally dumped waste from the homeless living in their vehicles.


I think the difference is what others said. Choice, intent, wealth, etc. But IMHO the homeless living in their vehicles (and in some cases full timers too) are ruining our reputation. We're not getting kicked out of parking lots in many cities because of our unsightly motorhomes and fifth wheels or because we park, pull down the shades and quietly go about our business. Like many things in life, a few who don't know any better or don't care ruin it for the rest of us.

And on another note, many cities offer free dump stations at water treatment plants, parks, etc. The only difference here is the stated reasoning.
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