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Old 04-20-2006, 05:32 PM   #15
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Do a web search on "RV Solar" and you will find a ton of information. You can go from a basic battery maintainer to a full blown system for running 110v appliances. It will all depend on your needs. As for charging the batteries while driving, if the vehicle and trailer are wired properly then yes you can charge the battery while driving.
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Old 04-21-2006, 04:20 PM   #16
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:21 PM   #17
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
I assume a generator runs on gas, is that correct? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Correct.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Can a solar panel recharge the battery? And if so, what am I looking at. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, but generally not very quickly. Depends on the size of the panel(s) and amount of direct sunlight hitting the panel. Doesn't work well in a forest, for example.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What is a Trojan T-105? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
A type of abttery. A T105 is a 6 volt golf cart battery and two are used, wired in series to produce 12V power. A pair of T105's will produce 220 amp-hours of electricity when new and fully charged.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">What is an inverter? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
A device that produces 110V AC electrical power from a 12V DC battery system. It takes a lot of battery power to produce a little 110 VAC power, so you need multiple batteries for even modest AC power.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How long can the fridge run on a single propane tank, considering I will still need the propane for some cooking? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

At least a couple Weeks.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">So, if I am assuming correctly, to go dry camping for a weekend, I will need, an extra propane tank (full LOL), a battery, a small generator, flashlights, a cooler, a porta potty, and a full water tank. Is this correct? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just a weekend? You probably don't need either the generator or the extra LP tank.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If I don't get solar panels, will my battery recharge from my van engine on the way back home after a weekend outing or is there something else I need to do to recharge it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Assuming your trailer connection is wired to provide charging from the van (depends on who installed the system), then yes it will re-charge. It takes more than a couple hours of driving, though, to fully recharge if the battery is significantly discharged.
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Old 04-28-2006, 03:32 AM   #19
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To, Mamaloya,

RE; Dry, boondocking, camping.

If you read my signature you will see what's needed for dry camping. If only for 2-3 days, you dont,t need as many batteries, solar panels and inverter are necessary and give you a lot more freedom to camp where and when you want and stay as long as you want.

This does cost $$, but what's the price of indepenence??

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I have found that solar is too costly for me personally. The best solar panel deal I've seen is the 45 watt set (3 15w panels) complete with lights and a converter for $200. No mattery or inverter us included. That may seem cheap to many here but keep in mind, my TT was only $500 (plus maybe another $500 work put into it). $200 is a lot to add onto it, but then again considering I paid $70 for a 13" AC/DC TV, I guess $200 wouldn't be too bad for the solar panels. Another factor bugs me however, having to attach them to the roof without causing leaks. I think I'd rather invest the $200 in a small cheap generator for occasional use instead of solar panels.

Back to the topic at hand, if I get an RV fridge (currently there is a 120v only one in it) I will get one that runs on propane. It would cost far too much to buy enough batteries to try to run it off of 12v full time.

Running it on 12v would be useful to maintain the temp inside of the fridge while you are driving since you're not supposed to leave the propane tank valves open (much less a flame burning!) inside of the trailer while towing. 12v however would be perfect for maintaining the temp while the propane is off durring towing.
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I am far from having extra money falling out of my pockets. If you're going to do a llot of boondocking buy a propane/110v fridge, or just a propane fridge.

We have two 30lb propane bottles and fill them in the spring and once towards the fall.

We have an older TT that has radiant heat and will run our furnace 24/7 for 2-4 days at a time spring and fall camping. We cool our fridge at home on 110v and before leaving home switch it to propane and never shut it off until we return home. A couple of times we have run the fridge for 10+ days. We also light our water heater when we set up at our campsite and don't shut it off until we break camp.

We have two 12v batteries. One powers the water pump, hood fan and the main lights. The second battery powers the LCD TV, DVD player, stereo, outside running lights (so friends can find us after dark), our ceiling vent fan and a few other 12 lights.

We have no troulbes boondocking 5-6 days with no generator.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ant:
i found this one
what do you think?


http://www.campingworld.com/browse/skus/index.cfm?deptI...f=40,25&skunum=27837 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That is NOT a 12V fridge. It is merely a portable RV absorption type fridge. This is a 12V fridge Tundra Marine fridge. They are a compressor type fridge (just like the one in your house) except they run off 12V (the AC version simply converts the 110V to 12V to power it) and have been used by boats and over the road trucks for MANY years. I have one in my Outfitter truck camper and ran it for over two years straight off of just the solar/batteries. It pulls about 3A when running but it doesn't run all the time. Just like your home fridge it will cycle on/off depending on the desired temp and the ambient temps and usually runs about 50% of the time.

If you need a portable unit look at these Engle I have a similar unit made by ARB and it will keep ice cream solid in 100+ degree temps.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KAYERIVERCITY:
.....$400......... you got to be kidding me!....a 25 cubic foot for a house is the same price....forgetaboutit and shop around...even an Ice chest would be Better...Ice is only a dollar a bag......geofkaye. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ice is a little hard to find when boondocking in the middle of the desert or in Baja.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This is a 12V fridge Tundra Marine fridge. They are a compressor type fridge (just like the one in your house) except they run off 12V (the AC version simply converts the 110V to 12V to power it) and have been used by boats and over the road trucks for MANY years. I have one in my Outfitter truck camper and ran it for over two years straight off of just the solar/batteries. It pulls about 3A when running but it doesn't run all the time. Just like your home fridge it will cycle on/off depending on the desired temp and the ambient temps and usually runs about 50% of the time.
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Steve, how many A-H of battery storage have you moded your Apex 9.5 for ideal ample extended boondocking capacity using this fridge? How many PV watts (assuming backup power as needed for cloudy weather, etc)? Weight adds up fast, just trying to plan on whether we could get buy with the F-250 or plan on an F-350 upfront since we are in the planning mode currently.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KU9L:
Steve, how many A-H of battery storage have you moded your Apex 9.5 for ideal ample extended boondocking capacity using this fridge? How many PV watts (assuming backup power as needed for cloudy weather, etc)? Weight adds up fast, just trying to plan on whether we could get buy with the F-250 or plan on an F-350 upfront since we are in the planning mode currently.

Thanks,

Dave </div></BLOCKQUOTE>First off I would say go with the F350 right off the bat. The added cost is minimal and the extra load capacity will keep you from spending money on suspension upgrades. The trucks are the same size and for all intents the ride is the same as well. I suggest getting both the "Camper" and Snow Plow Prep" Pkgs. My rig is somewhere in the neighborhood of 3500lbs when FULLY loaded (passengers, fuel, food, equip, etc) for a trip and I barely engage the overloads.

What camper are you looking to get? Where do you plan on going with it?

I have (4) Lifeline GPL-4CT, AGM batteries in my current Apex9.5 camper for a total of 440AH. In our Previous Apex8 we had (2) Trojan T-145's with a 260AH rating. Both battery setups were factory installed with the 9.5 getting a custom battery compartment I designed.

Both our campers have used (3) 90W panels for a total of 270W. I bought this system for our previous Class A and have reused it in both our Outfitters. We use a SolarBoost 2000e MPPT controller. The panels are installed in tilt-able mounts but I have never utilized that feature yet. If starting from scratch for our current camper I would have gone with (2) or more likely (3) 123W panels, since with solar there really is no such thing as too much.

If you want more info feel free to PM me as we are getting way off the threads topic here.
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