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Old 12-23-2013, 08:52 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by J Birder View Post
I am paddling a 18', 45 lb., kevlar, Winona Sundowner. The hard part was finding a way to carry it while pulling the 5er.I finally settled on a Yakima Goalpost in a front hitch and a single roof rack.

We had a 17' Wenonah Sundowner Royalex and a Wenonah Rendezvous before we downsized. We're now looking for something to throw on top of the toad. Perhaps a Wenonah Heron Kevlar UL. Kinda hard to find used though, may have to look at longer boats.

OK, back on topic! I view the generator as a backup and solar as my primary charging system. There are ways to reduce the SPL of generators. Still not quiet though.

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Old 12-23-2013, 05:30 PM   #30
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Glad to see others do not need generators for full timing. Have posted elsewhee that was have 1.4 kW of solar and 9.8 kW hours of LFP batteries and can run 1.5 kW ac for 3.5 hours as combination of solar and batteries. Would rather go north or up in elevation. Need to look into a 0.5 kW window ac for most purposes. We do have a 1 kW Honda gas generator for backup but have not used generator or line power since son put the system together in June except to test and exercise the system. This pays off. We had two bull moose fighting within 25 meters of our rig this summer at Vedauwoo.

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Old 12-23-2013, 06:14 PM   #31
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Hi Jim, Thanks for the info. I did think after your comment that 4000 watt inverter was a bit much for 200 watts solar, so I re-checked. It's a Xantrex PROwatt SW 2000W true sine wave inverter. Here's a link: Product Review - Xantrex PROwatt SW 2000 Inverter Both of us being ex-Navy I just left it to him, watched and learned some things - he fused it at 30 Amps! (he knocked 20% of price = $485). Have Sunforce 12v 30 Amp Digital Controller. The solar is Ramsond x2 100W Mono-crystalline panels with heavy gauge wire from battery to inverter at least x2 car battery. Have x2 24 12vdc batteries and trickle charger (take the batteries out & home each time too keep them topped off). The LED TV will be run off 12vdc, lights are LED, or lanterns, furnace, frig, water heater will run off propane (2 tanks installed). Only turn on water pump when I need water. Still thinking the Yamaha 2400 might be nice? "IF" it will start 13,500 BTU ac. Yamaha says 'may' but the AC is Coleman-MAX high efficiency I guess? So thinking the Yamaha may not just run the old 13500 window units? Think it will do the job? Amazon.com: Yamaha EF2400iSHC Portable Generator: Patio, Lawn & Garden
Take a look at the Yamaha EF3000iSEB. It has an onboard battery to boost power for starting motors.

The Yamaha EF3000iSEB is one of the most technologically advanced inverter generators available. Get that extra “boost” of power to get your power tool or air conditioner started quickly and efficiently thanks to the EF3000iSEB generator from Yamaha. The “B” on EF3000iSEB means it features Yamaha Boost Technology®, which provides additional power when you need it. Perfect for the RV enthusiast, the EF3000iSEB is an ideal source of power for either a fifth wheel or travel trailer. The Boost Control Unit in the generator automatically senses when you need additional boost and uses power from the internal 12-volt battery to produce additional amperage. With the additional 10-second boost, the power is comparable to a conventional 3500-watt generator.
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Old 12-23-2013, 09:29 PM   #32
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I think the question is, do you THINK you'll NEED a generator at some point? If you think you will than you should have one. If you think you can get by without one and are only thinking about getting one because 'everyone has one" than you may not actually need one. Me personally, I have not yet bought a generator, or solar panels or any other form of power. When I first bought No Hurry, I thought I would need that stuff, full timing in an area that gets snow 6 to 7 months a year, but turns out, I've not yet needed one, so I've not yet bought one. Back when I started fulltiming I thought I needed a generator because "everyone has one", but once I started living in a moho it kind of occurred to me I wasn't everyone else and I didn't really need one.
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Old 12-23-2013, 11:31 PM   #33
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I full time a pair of Boxers, one is 10 YO. He doesn't do well with temperature extremes, as a matter of fact neither do I. Having a pair of Honda 2000's give me the feeling to go where ever and not worry. Perhaps I have the wrong idea of boondocking, but love my TV, ham radios and internet. I wouldn't recommend a pair of them, but having reliable power gives me a secure feeling. While traveling, I've used my Honda to charge my battery during my 3 alternator failings in 6 months. Driving away sure beat being towed away. I appreciate the love of quietness, but I love me more.
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I used to use a generator every day when boondocking. Then I found Hand Bobs blog and rewired and upgraded my solar system.


Since doing this I only run the generator for A/C or washer/dryer.

We have gone for days on end with no generator and only using our solar. Generally my 4-6v batteries are fully charged by noon or so each day. Now, some would assume that we don't turn on the inverter but that couldn't be further from the truth. We have a 50" HD TV with our satellite system. I also have a desktop computer with 30" monitor. We watch tv and or work on our computers for several hours a day.

A little education and you too can enjoy the peace and quiet of a generator free campground. :-)

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