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06-16-2018, 12:33 PM
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Dry camping advice-generator & AC
We have a new Jayco Melbourne 24M that has an installed propane genny. Our first dry camp experience will be at Trumbo at NAS Key West for 4 weeks in October, hurricane permitting. My question is about keeping cool. If at all possible, I would prefer to not have to drive out for propane refill if we run the coach genny to run AC. I also have a pair of Yamaha 2000 with a parallel cable from our old fiver.
I would like to devise a way to run a small portable AC with one Yamaha and was wondering if anyone has done anything similar and what equipment you may have used. Need to do some more research about small AC starting loads etc. but was hoping the wisdom and experience of the forum may save some wasted effort!
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06-16-2018, 12:52 PM
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If you have a vehicle, you could get an external 20 lb propane tank and equip your 24M with a Brass Tee Adapter and appropriate hose made to allow external propane tanks to be safely connected. Then you just drive the 20 lb tank for exchange or refill. Would weigh less and take up less space than the Yamaha and the gas can carrying gas for it.
Part sold at RV supply stores and online for around $ 60. It goes between the internal propane tank and the input side of the regulator. It is about 3" long so in many RVs it is not a simple insert in line installation if the regulator can't easily be moved over 3".
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06-16-2018, 01:27 PM
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If you go with the extend a stay adaptor and a 20lb bbq tank, get it refilled with 20lb of propane. The exchange tanks are only filled to 15 lbs of propane.
Problem with bbq tanks is that they hold 4.7 gallons of propane. With the generator burning 1/2 a gallon an hour, your swapping tanks every 10 to 12 hours of run time.
I'd use the portable generators. Gas is easier.
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06-18-2018, 07:50 PM
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That time of year you are going to need to run the AC most of the time.
If it were me I'd get a campground and not be out much more money than running the genny all the time.
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06-18-2018, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by computerguy
That time of year you are going to need to run the AC most of the time.
If it were me I'd get a campground and not be out much more money than running the genny all the time.
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He's dry camping on a military base in Key West. The only other park there is $135 a day. Bring the Yamaha 2000s with a parallel cable. We'll be there Dec-Apr.
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06-18-2018, 08:55 PM
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Will anyone deliver a larger bottle and fill it for you on the .mil base? Like maybe the 100 pound tank, or larger if you need it?
https://www.gasteconline.com/tank-chart.php
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06-18-2018, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 1bigmess
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LPG service company in KW not allowed (insurance problem) on base. You drive rig off base or carry bottle off to refill. Been that way past 5 winters. LPG is $4.50 + per gal down there. The two Yamaha's won't cost more to run then the propane genny will. And you can charge your batteries on only running one. Been stayin there for 13 winters.
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06-18-2018, 09:04 PM
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FYI, portable A/C units are low efficiency compared to the usual RV or window A/C units. Most are poorly reviewed.
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06-18-2018, 09:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skypilot_1
LPG service company in KW not allowed (insurance problem) on base. You drive rig off base or carry bottle off to refill. Been that way past 5 winters. LPG is $4.50 + per gal down there. The two Yamaha's won't cost more to run then the propane genny will. And you can charge your batteries on only running one. Been stayin there for 13 winters.
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There you have it: either wrestle with your own 100 pound bottle, or run the gennies and use gasoline.
Personally, I'd change the oil in the gennies before the trip and run them. Might be easier than changing the oil in the chassis mounted gennie? I'm not sure which is easier for you.
I hope you have a great trip.
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06-18-2018, 09:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by computerguy
That time of year you are going to need to run the AC most of the time.
If it were me I'd get a campground and not be out much more money than running the genny all the time.
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I have solar and a 7.5K gen, but sometimes I use a park. Currently at a CP w/ 50amp and water no Dump for $8 (eight dollars a nite) cheap parks do exist.
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06-19-2018, 07:49 AM
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location, location, location
Sometimes it is just about the destination.
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06-20-2018, 05:50 PM
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Seniorchief, you may want to look at installing a Micro-Air EasyStart 364 Soft Starter on your RV air conditioner. I just installed one on my Dometic Brisk II 13,500-BTU air conditioner and can now run it easily on one Honda EU2200i generator in Eco mode.
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06-20-2018, 06:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ByeTheWay
X2
I have solar and a 7.5K gen, but sometimes I use a park. Currently at a CP w/ 50amp and water no Dump for $8 (eight dollars a nite) cheap parks do exist.
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Not in the Florida Keys.
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06-22-2018, 05:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twinboat
Not in the Florida Keys.
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If i could stay in the keys (anywhere in the keys not just key west) for 8 a night we would be on our way and not leave until thrown out or a hurricane started brewing.
If we were gonna be in Key west in oct we would not care about ac. Having enough ice and rum to make boat drinks would be our only concern.
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