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Old 07-24-2014, 07:51 PM   #15
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If anyone asks for my "home" address, they get my legal address, which is a 4" by 4" Box for mail, listed as Apartment # ###.

Don't need to lie.

Sure hope you are not implying that I lie !!!!
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Sure hope you are not implying that I lie !!!!
When you said:" How would the fools know that you were a full timer unless you told them. If they wanted your address give them a relatives address !"


Giving an officer an address where you don't live sounds like a lie to me.

It is also a chargeable offense.

I don't know if you would do it, but you did suggest it.
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A motorhome or trailer does not fit the legal definition of a residence:
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“Residence” means a fixed and permanent abode or dwelling-place for the time being,

Law Dictionary: What is RESIDENCE? definition of RESIDENCE (Black's Law Dictionary)
Nor would a van for that mater, you would have to remove the wheels for it to be "fixed and permanent".
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:50 PM   #18
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When you said:" How would the fools know that you were a full timer unless you told them. If they wanted your address give them a relatives address !"


Giving an officer an address where you don't live sounds like a lie to me.

It is also a chargeable offense.

I don't know if you would do it, but you did suggest it.
I have to agree with you, on the face of it, it does sound like a lie.
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The National Park service has camp hosts and they know that they are full-time RV'ers. They allow them to live on public land for extended periods. The COE does the same. If the only difference is a mailing address, most full-timers have one. What is the big deal?? I do not own land. I get my mail forwarded by a realitive. But, I just spent 3 months at a national park and am spending 3 months at a COE campground. No park employee has ever asked me about anything like that.
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A motorhome or trailer does not fit the legal definition of a residence:
Nor would a van for that mater, you would have to remove the wheels for it to be "fixed and permanent".
Sorry, I respectfully disagree. One can have many residences BUT only one domicile.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...1094623AAMWB3Z

RESIDENCE is the place of general abode; principal, actual dwelling place in fact, without regard to intent (emphasis added). A person can have more than one residence, such as a second home for vacation purposes or (as many younger people do) a parent's home as well as their own home.

DOMICILE is defined by Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, as “A person's legal home. That place where a man has his true, fixed, and permanent home and principal establishment, and to which whenever he is absent he has the INTENTION OF RETURNING (emphasis added) (Smith v. Smith, 206 Pa. Super. 310) A person may have more than one residence but only one domicile. The legal domicile of a person is important since it, rather than the actual residence, often controls the jurisdiction of the taxing authorities and determines where a person may exercise the privilege of voting and other legal rights and privileges.”

If you want to establish your domicile in a new state, you may be required to show intent by taking certain actions such as:

1. Registering to vote in the new state;
2. Purchasing residential property or a residential lot;
3. Titling and registering an automobile;
4. Obtaining a new driver’s license.


My residence is exactly the spot where my coach (which BTW is my home) is parked at that very minute. My domicile is Anchorage Alaska.

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I have to agree with you, on the face of it, it does sound like a lie.
No biggie. We all make mistakes. And you know what ? We all lie now and then too.
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Much ado about nothing, and as noted, a "story" over a year old.

This was much discussed at several forums when it first came out, and those who chose to take the trouble to look a little further into even that fellow's cited sources easily gleaned the truth, which is that length-of-stay restrictions exist on all public lands, and THAT is the rule that "prohibits" folks from fulltiming thereon.

As noted at this page, cited in that blog post:
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Forest Service Public Affairs Specialist Jace Ratzlaff clarified this in an email. “Camping more than 28 days with a continuous 60-day period, where not otherwise restricted, and occupying any campsite for more than 14 days during this 60-day period within 3 miles of a previous campsite are both prohibited,” he stated, adding that “it’s more of a problem in the spring and summer.”
There's no discriminatory language codified anywhere citing a particular "target population". That language about "no permanent address" is taken out of context. Rangers may use that bit of information to deduce that some folks are moving from place to place within a particular forest, thereby violating length of stay restrictions, that's all.
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How would the fools know that you were a full timer unless you told them. If they wanted your address give them a relatives address !
Correct. Although, a fulltimer was driving through Nevada last year and got stopped with an out of state license. Highway patrol asked him why he was in Nevada. Dah??? I'm camping. Nope, he told them he was working as a work camper at one of the parks. Got cited for no Nevada license, and vehicle registration. If you technically work in a state you are a resident. Some people are just way toooooo honest when asked a question.
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No biggie. We all make mistakes. And you know what ? We all lie now and then too.
WHAT !
ARE YOU CALLING ME A LIER AGAIN !!!
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Correct. Although, a fulltimer was driving through Nevada last year and got stopped with an out of state license. Highway patrol asked him why he was in Nevada. Dah??? I'm camping. Nope, he told them he was working as a work camper at one of the parks. Got cited for no Nevada license, and vehicle registration. If you technically work in a state you are a resident. Some people are just way toooooo honest when asked a question.
I live in AZ and often work in CA....Been doing it for years.
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I hope everyone on here understands that they are going to get a ticket for camping on BLM lands if they are fulltimers. I read Bobs blog, and the 'story'. Some guy who lives in a van in the middle of the forest with lots of stuff around that looks like he has set up residence may be questioned. I was on BLM land last year. There were a few examples of homeless living in tents, vans, and old MH in a state of disrepair. Not one of these folks were questioned or bothered.
It was very evident that some drug and prostitution activity was present. They stayed away from everyone and no police or Rangers ever showed up.
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I live in AZ and often work in CA....Been doing it for years.
Yup, people do it all the time. Check the requirements
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Don't draw attention to yourself, and you probably will not get any attention.
When talking to law enforcement, or government people in general, do not talk too much....
I use to do investigations, and just pulling a "Columbo", and letting people talk themselves into trouble worked better than any technique.. for getting answers.
Just shut up. You do not have to answer questions, People tend to think they must respond to all inquiries from people, with some sort of verbal answer, but you don't. It is a natural human nature reaction to respond to a question, but the smart understained not saying too much.
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