QUOTE=Dave and Jaime;814590]Grey water (and black) in your home either goes to a septic system or a SANITARY sewer system (run by municipality) -- not a STORM sewer. Storm sewers are not part of the sanitary sewer system. They simply handle groundwater runoff and typically would empty into an untreated basin or other body of water like a stream.[/QUOTE]
Topeka Kansas has a COMBINED sewer system which they are expanding rather than "fix".
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Kansas City Kansas combined sewer system PDF explaining the system:
It would be nice to think what you're saying is true but it's not. I'm not just talking about some boondock location. New York City is combined. I live in NY on Long Island. IF
there are storm drains in Suffolk county they drain to SUMPS. Untreated water is put in a hole and then seeps straight down through our sandy soil to the water aquifer. Combined sewer and storm water are common in the most
populated areas in the United States. Older Cities did not run around upgrading their systems. They have a hard enough time making believe they maintain what they have in place. Washington D.C. has a combined sewer and storm system, the home of the EPA. I'm also wondering why my statement about combined sewer and storm drains, if read, could be thought of as not true. My statement about the sewer plants in combined systems being flushed out to sea or rivers untreated during storms is a fact. Everything and anything flushable is flushed during a storm. It also does not have to be a torrential downpour for days on end either. Sewer plants are mostly run at their limits in most locations. It doesn't take much extra water to push the sewage through untreated.
My wife grew up in her early years using an outhouse. I lived down the road with a toilet inside our house. When they got enough money to put in a cesspool they got a toilet inside. We have never known anyone who got sick from sewage. Not even when using an outhouse. I use outhouses in all the Adirondack state parks IF they are near where I camp. Some of the outhouses have been decorated by we users even down to a convenient rock to chock the door open when doing your "business"
I have never seen a campground with a treatment plant. Maybe they exist in a resort but I've never seen one. Mostly because we boondock.
Now I'm not a pig so, if I can store all of my waste and dump later, that's what I do. Blackwater is NEVER dumped on the ground. If your black water is full and you don't want to move dig a hole and cover it up. New York state tells you HOW and WHERE. You're not looked upon as a polluter either. Now if you have huge numbers of people hanging around your site doing this it could become a problem. Anything in excess is a problem.
Now if people were REALLY interested in doing the right thing, then they would have motorhomes with composting toilets at a minimum. They've been around for years and years. They work! THEN you wouldn't have to dump your black water. Heck they don't freeze either! They don't have them available because in my belief people are not serious about protecting the environment.
I'm .looking at my motorhome and wondering how they could be so callous as to install an OUTSIDE shower. Anyone using theirs with a pop up shower tent? Should I be standing in a big washtub with a ShamWow in the bottom soaking up the water while I'm taking the shower?
KANSAS CITY, MO combined and they'll go broke upgrading:
Kansas City Faces $3.6 Billion Sewer, Stormwater Upgrade