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Old 09-02-2015, 12:15 AM   #43
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Using premium gas is a waste of money. Higher octane only works if compression is high enough to require it. If the manual says use 89 octane, use that, add Sta-Bil, and Dave a little money.
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Old 09-02-2015, 05:33 AM   #44
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Ok, ok, you guys win. Here is some info I dug up that confirms E10 is ok in your genny.

http://www.agmachinery.okstate.edu/e...%20Engines.pdf

http://www.echo.ca/Warranty/Learn-Ab...ol-Fuel-062512

Don't want to upset anybody...lol. I have the option to run non ethanol which I'll continue to do. Additives are a lot more expensive where I live. Bottom line is maintain what you have and you should be good.
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Old 09-02-2015, 05:39 AM   #45
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One more from Popular Mechanics

Ethanol-Free Gasoline - Two-Cycle Engines
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:00 AM   #46
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Ok, ok, you guys win. Here is some info I dug up that confirms E10 is ok in your genny.

http://www.agmachinery.okstate.edu/e...%20Engines.pdf

http://www.echo.ca/Warranty/Learn-Ab...ol-Fuel-062512

Don't want to upset anybody...lol. I have the option to run non ethanol which I'll continue to do. Additives are a lot more expensive where I live. Bottom line is maintain what you have and you should be good.

The point is not whether it's safe to run. The point is that E10 fouls the carbs very quickly when sitting for extended periods. Read the whole thread.
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Old 09-02-2015, 04:57 PM   #47
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Ethanol-Free Gasoline - Two-Cycle Engines
What I don't like about that article is:

A: there is basically zero explanation of how E10 fuel harms anything, and
B: all of the products mentioned in the article either are advertised in Popular Mechanics or their parent companies have other products advertised in the magazine, and
C: it is basically opposite of the U of O study posted.

Draw your own conclusions, spend your own money, IANAChemist, ad nauseum.
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I use non ethanol non oxygenated, no additive " can gas". Can be found at any good small engines shop, lowes, Home Depot, online etc. it's a little pricy at 7 bucks a can, but carb repairs are more expensive. Just my 02 cents worth Click image for larger version

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Wow $28.00 a gallon.

If I burn 5 gallons, I spent enough for a new carb.
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Old 09-07-2015, 03:29 AM   #50
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it's a little pricy at 7 bucks a can, but carb repairs are more expensive. Attachment 106071
I'm not trying to pick on anybody, but some folks need a math refresher course. Like it was said, $28/gal? That is ten times the pump gas price.

$2.80 10 = $28 In many places, gas should be less than $2.80/gal.

That is totally false economy.
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The point is not whether it's safe to run. The point is that E10 fouls the carbs very quickly when sitting for extended periods. Read the whole thread.

The other issue is that 'fuel spiking' is becoming a real problem. Unscrupulous gas station owners have discovered that if they up the Ethanol level they can pocket some big bucks.

If you happen to get a 5 gal can full of this stuff and pour it into a small engine, especially an older one, you could be in for real problems.
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All the more reason to buy gas at reputable retailers. I doubt that Costco and other large club type big box places wold do something like this. The same with corporate owned stations of the big oil brands. Also another reason to use a good stabilizer as more alcohol=more water.
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Unlike Yamaha, Honda 2000i has a fuel pump built in. So you can buy this cap and hook up an outboard motor tank and run 48 hours or more straight.

http://www.amazon.com/EXTENDED-FUEL-...rator+fuel+cap
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Unlike Yamaha, Honda 2000i has a fuel pump built in. So you can buy this cap and hook up an outboard motor tank and run 48 hours or more straight.

http://www.amazon.com/EXTENDED-FUEL-...rator+fuel+cap
Or you can build your own very easily. here is how from our blog posting.
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Should work just as well, but if you have to buy a replacement cap for the Honda, then buy some epoxy, just as simple to buy a well machined and threaded cap I posted.
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I bought the second cap, rather then modify the original, so I had the original, If I wanted to use it without the extra tank hooked up.
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