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Old 11-14-2012, 09:04 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by TdogKing View Post
Twitch, your not getting my point but that's cool , not here to argue just discuss. I've been Camping in a Motorhome all over the So Cal Deserts for over 30 years with a Locked, Loaded Jeep... yes with a winch. Could I have your number so next time I get stuck @ Ocotillo I could call you ?...... I'm kiddin

Call me anytime. I love pulling people out. Including your Heep

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:07 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by kat_nda_sand View Post
We boondock so we are always driving where we might get stuck because, well, thats where we camp. We are headed out to wash 17.5 in Glamis on Sunday, wish us the best as the rest of our group won't be out until the next day.

Oh... and we always get out and have a look around once we start getting unsure. Usually our group is out there before us and they all have 4x4 trucks.

Good luck. I guess if you get stuck, just setup camp and wait for the rest of the group. Doesn't sound like a bad back up plan to me.

Just stay on the skinny pedal and you will be fine

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:33 PM   #45
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And while we are on the subject. If one was to get stuck in the Southern California area on a dirt\sand road...

Will most tow companies come pull you?
Is there a specific company that people use\recommend?
Do any of these companies like "Triple A" cover towing is this situation?
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:05 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by TdogKing View Post
All 3 Ideas above aren't very feasible and are dangerous. The video above showing a 4 Runner pulling a Motorhomes out is very mis-leading as the Motorhome was barely stuck. If it was truly stuck that 4Runner doesn't weigh enough nor does it have enough Horsepower or Traction to pull a stuck Motorhome out . I STRESS again , Don't get your RV Stuck !
STUCK is STUCK! When you get stuck, DO NOT BURY YOURSELF IN! Lightly stuck is a lot easier to get out of than BURIED!

The 4 runner only needed to add enough force to get the motor coach to where it could pull itself out. Quite often, vehicles with hard tires dig a VERY small hole straight down. The van, although heavier, the tires were skinnier and HARD. The HP and torque of the van overcame the traction capabilities of the tires. The 4 Runner, although lighter, less HP and torque, using gearing and higher traction flotation tires applied MORE pulling force on the motorcoach. The coach's drivetrain upon regaining traction, essentially pulled itself out. The frame of the coach was twisted and caused one drive wheel to become light, spin and lose traction. By pulling the drive wheel to the edge of the hole, with the 4runner, traction was gained and it drove out.

I have done more pulling in 2WD in beach sand than most have done in 4WD! Pisses the guys off that don't know how to drive in sand and need a transfer case. SAND is tricky and having someone teach me when I was a teen has enabled me to do some amazing pulls with MANY 2WD vehicles.

Think about this - a military duece and a half is 3 drive axles, HEAVY, and either 6 or 10 wheel drive (new ones have single tires on each axle in the back, old ones have duals on the back), DIESEL engines and tons of HP and torque! They arent worth a crap in soft sand! Granted, the new ones have air down capabilities, and manage, but we had to pull a bunch out with tracked vehicles in Desert Storm! NOW, imagine this - a 30 to 60 hp Volkswagen sand rail, LIGHT, 1 drive axle, 2WD, FLOTATION tires or even STREET tires aired down!
The less HP doesn't overcome the traction capabilities of the tires and applies MORE pulling force than the 600 to 800 HP of the duece! THIS IS SAND!

Real life situation 20 something years ago - I drove up on a dually stake bed stuck on the beach (luckily the driver stopped spinning before burying all the way down) and a F250 on 36s tryin to pull him out. The F250 kept spinning holes in the sand. I asked to try with my Jeep CJ7. Got laughed at a few minutes till the F250 gave up and told the driver to call a wrecker. I asked to give it a try and was given the chance. With 33s aired down to 8psi in the back and 10 in the front, transfer case in 4 Lo, I was able to pull him out in 2WD! I had a busted front drive axle at the time! I did it by having the dually driver spin his tires SLOWLY so as to not keep digging sand from under his tires. I applied only enough power to pull and NOT spin my tires! It is like having 30 people on a rope pulling simultaniously!

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