Go Back   iRV2 Forums > CAMPING, TRAVEL and TRIP PLANNING > Boondocking
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-30-2010, 11:14 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
Wanabee FTer's Avatar
 
Gulf Streamers Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Golden Village Palms, CA
Posts: 1,988
Blog Entries: 12
How warm are you at night when dry camping?

I would like to know how warm you keep your space at night when boondocking. I suspect we will be dry camping in areas that get down into the low 20's possible teens. Since I am starting out with 164 amp capacity batteries and no solar, I am just wondering if we will make it through the night without space heaters. Would like to know roughly how many amps to run the heater and how much propane is needed to accomplish this. My wife is terrified of being too cold!
I know I could just try it and see, but hey that's what this forum is for right?
__________________

__________________
John
'98 Gulf Stream Sunsport 325, 7.5L Banks Power Pack, Koni FSD's, Air Bags, ReadyBrute Elite,
2000 Honda Accord

Wanabee FTer is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-30-2010, 11:50 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
KJINTF's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Western Montana
Posts: 319
How warm do you want to be?

Not knowing what kind of heater you are talking about all I can say is my experience
Our forced air heating system set at 55 for the night with outside temps below 20F. The blower motor runs for about 1.5 hours total during the night. The motor draws 6amps. Do the math if your batteries are properly charged and you are not using other power, including power hungry incandescent lights. You are good to go. Your propane should last many weeks.

A suggestion you might want to try a warmer blanket.

I replaced the stock "cheap" thermostat that had a ZERO degree differential offset, which caused the blower motor to click on/off dozens of additional times with a proper programmable unit set at 3 degrees offset. This alone was a huge power savings.
__________________

__________________
Please do not toss your defective Converters / Inverters / etc. in the trash
KJINTF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 11:55 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
Wanabee FTer's Avatar
 
Gulf Streamers Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Golden Village Palms, CA
Posts: 1,988
Blog Entries: 12
I would have no problem with 55 degree's, DW wants nothing under 70 !
using a Suburban forced air heater.
__________________
Wanabee FTer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:00 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
KJINTF's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Western Montana
Posts: 319
Good Luck!
Might need to get up at night and start up the engine a few times
How is the rigs insulation?
The warmer blanket is still the best solution
But do not try as my wife does to use the 12Volt electric blanket
There goes another 2 to 4 amps
__________________
Please do not toss your defective Converters / Inverters / etc. in the trash
KJINTF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:06 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Always-RVing's Avatar
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 959
Full-hookup: I was going through 30 gallons of propane about every two weeks last winter. I was also using space heaters at the same time. Well, motorhomes are just not the best thing for insulation (heat or cooling). Batteries will drain within a few hours. I added another space heater (now 3), and the two furnaces are staying off for longer periods of time. So far, it looks better than last year. Temps are currently running from the teens to low twenties at night.

There's no way my wife would live with 55 degrees. Men can,,, Not women.
__________________
Fleetwood Providence 2008 40e
Ford F-350 4x4 Diesel 6.0L 2006
Honda CR-V 2006
Always-RVing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:11 PM   #6
Senior Member
 
Wanabee FTer's Avatar
 
Gulf Streamers Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Golden Village Palms, CA
Posts: 1,988
Blog Entries: 12
Wondering if I change the batteries to 2-6 volts (225 Amps) and change the t-stat if that would be enough. We do not have an inverter, so no TV and Microwave to factor in.
__________________
Wanabee FTer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:15 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
KJINTF's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Western Montana
Posts: 319
Come on out to Montana for the winter
The high today might be 15F
Last weeks lows were -20F or more
Now January gets cold at -30F or more, we have seen -40F/C once in a while
The weather helps keep the tourists away
The RV is put away in October for the duration which provides time for other activities, Snow sleds, skiing, etc.
Proper insulation helps a lot at both extremes
__________________
Please do not toss your defective Converters / Inverters / etc. in the trash
KJINTF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:18 PM   #8
Registered User
 
Vintage RV Owners Club
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,954
Thats my plan - 2x6V's. Those extra Ah's really seem to go longer than you'd think.

Do you have room to add the 6V's and keep the 12's? Almost 400Ah would be sweet and you could keep it above 65* to boot
__________________
Midniteoyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:32 PM   #9
Senior Member
 
hdossett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: N. Central AZ
Posts: 539
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanabee FTer View Post
I would have no problem with 55 degree's, DW wants nothing under 70 !.
I think this is what you need to work on first.

We don't go ofter when the temps are much below freezing. That said, it in not unusual for the inside to drop down to 40, or lower. I usually get up first, by an hour or so. Turn furnace on 58-60 (warm enough for me). When M gets up she sets it to 64. Sometimes, it does not go off in that hour!

We have 300 watts of solar and 6 GCs, and with out a lot of sun, (more heat needed and less charging), we will run the gen about an hour a day. IIRC, my blower draws ~8 amps.
__________________
'01 National RV Tropi-Cal, Ford V10, '01 Suzuki GV 4X4 Blue Ox Tow Bar,300 Watts Solar, 2500 Watt '458' Inverter, NO TVs, Most light fixtures upgraded to LEDs

hdossett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 12:46 PM   #10
Senior Member
 
Wanabee FTer's Avatar
 
Gulf Streamers Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Golden Village Palms, CA
Posts: 1,988
Blog Entries: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midniteoyl View Post
Thats my plan - 2x6V's. Those extra Ah's really seem to go longer than you'd think.

Do you have room to add the 6V's and keep the 12's? Almost 400Ah would be sweet and you could keep it above 65* to boot
I have room for 3 group 24- 12 volts or 2-6 volts, not quite enough for 4-6 volts.
__________________
Wanabee FTer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 01:05 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
KJINTF's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Western Montana
Posts: 319
I completely understand the battery space limitations. Reached my limit and will be replacing the GC batteries with AGM batteries this winter. That nasty gassing and corrosion from the wet cell batteries is not needed or wanted anymore.

What might be easier than replacing the batteries and trying to keep 70 degrees up north would be to add several hundred gallons of fuel and go south for the winter.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC03058.JPG
Views:	114
Size:	151.9 KB
ID:	6938  
__________________
Please do not toss your defective Converters / Inverters / etc. in the trash
KJINTF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 01:09 PM   #12
Registered User
 
Vintage RV Owners Club
Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 4,954
So.. two 6v plus one 12v 225+85=310Ah.. Plus a spare 12v.
__________________
Midniteoyl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 01:20 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Wanabee FTer's Avatar
 
Gulf Streamers Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Golden Village Palms, CA
Posts: 1,988
Blog Entries: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Midniteoyl View Post
So.. two 6v plus one 12v 225+85=310Ah.. Plus a spare 12v.
Why didn't I think of that. Yes 2-6 volts in series connected to 1-12 volt in parallel for the house, probably the best bet for my situation. Still don't know if that will be enough.
__________________
Wanabee FTer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-30-2010, 01:33 PM   #14
Senior Member
 
KJINTF's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Western Montana
Posts: 319
Guys
Be very careful connecting batteries of different kinds in parallel
The weaker one WILL destroy the more powerful one
Might take a while but you will be buying all new batteries
Better to think about buying a Perko switch to isolate the batteries
__________________

__________________
Please do not toss your defective Converters / Inverters / etc. in the trash
KJINTF is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Should I bring extra batteries dry camping kcaravelli Winnebago Industries Owner's Forum 9 06-17-2010 01:17 AM
Tent Camping - Has It Ever Been This Good? GaryKD iRV2.com General Discussion 10 09-08-2007 07:23 AM
Camping World ChiefJohn iRV2.com General Discussion 1 04-19-2007 05:15 AM
Dry Camping, house batteries BKFMS MH-General Discussions & Problems 5 10-18-2006 11:07 AM
High desert camping in socal Budster Camping Locations, Plans & Trip Reports 1 05-23-2006 07:04 AM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.