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Old 10-14-2015, 07:54 PM   #43
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hornet spray? I have never looked at what is in it?
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:36 PM   #44
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hornet spray? I have never looked at what is in it?
It has better range and is more debilitating than pepper spray. I think they will shoot 15-20' and burn like crazy. With pepper spray, you have to be much closer and a breeze can turn it on you.
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It has better range and is more debilitating than pepper spray. I think they will shoot 15-20' and burn like crazy. With pepper spray, you have to be much closer and a breeze can turn it on you.

X2. And it has the advantage that it doesn't look like a self defence weapon! A giant can of bear spray (pepper spray) calls attention.

Plus it's useful to actually kill wasps and hornets at a campsite 😜
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I wouldn't recommend using any kind of pepper spray inside of your MH/TT. You may avert an attacker, but you'll also choke yourself out as well.

In all seriousness, firearms are a great idea. Just be aware that our walls are thin and rounds will not be stopped by them. That being said it'd be hard to be fully aware of your surroundings, direction of fire and what lie beyond your intended target. A good solution would be bean bag rounds for a shotgun. Less likely to penetrate exterior walls, and if they do will not have much energy left in them.
That reminded me of an actual event. In 1970 during the first year of our marriage, the wife and I were sitting at dinner in our trailer in a trailer park. We heard a commotion outside and went to investigate. A neighbor had been preparing to clean his gun in his living room. It discharged, the slug went through the wall, and through the wall of the next trailer over. When it went through the wall of the next trailer, it shattered a glass mirror, and the shards of glass fell into a babies crib below it. The baby was not in the crib, as she was in the tub being given her night-time bath by her mom.
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Might be interesting reading to some or not.
Oklahoma Personal Defense - The Myth of Wasp Spray
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Wasp Spray for Self-Defense? : snopes.com

Snopes gives wasp spray mixed reviews for self defense and cites the warning label and possible jurisdiction laws. And, apparently, some pepper sprays can be purchased that shoot an 8 to 25' stream.
Wasp spray is still more readily available and will still probably incapacitate an attacker.
Most pepper sprays on Amazon have a range of 10' and I saw a couple with a range of 30'
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Stream is good for one person, fog type for multiple people. Stream is better indoors. Fog is pretty good for animals.

Whatever you decide on, without some kind of training and practice, you might be just as dangerous to yourself as to someone that might want to harm you. If you taking a good chance of hurting yourself too, you could do much worse than pepper spray.
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Spraying oneself in the eye is not the option that most would take.
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Of course not, and civilians have the option, LE usually does not. But, without some training, without knowing what to expect, without professional guidance, without some way to practice, there is likely to be a significant number of folks that are probably no better off armed with anything than completely unarmed.

I'm not anti-self defense in any way. I'm pro-empowerment and pro-informed choices. In my mind, that also means proper preparation. Someone helped me cook pancakes right the first time, and that was a heck of a lot less serious than self-defense, dontchathink?
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Find and speak to a personal protection instructor. They can go over your legal options and provide the proper training as well as resources for purchasing the proper products.
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NRA sign is probably not the best plan. If you are gone, it means pretty much "FREE FIREARMS" unless you have a good plan on how to hide them.
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I used industrial strength wasp spray for years at my job and although I was smart enough to never spray any in my own face I got plenty on my hands from working where I just killed the wasps, bees or whatever and never had any burning in my eyes. This stuff isn't available to the public AFAIK so the cans from your local home improvement store might not be the same.
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